From kde-core-devel Fri Jul 25 20:08:07 2003 From: Bernhard Reiter Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:08:07 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: Qt 3.2 requirement X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=105916378914104 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary-02=_n4YI/VVrdh7TnSe" --Boundary-02=_n4YI/VVrdh7TnSe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 25 July 2003 19:47, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 14:32, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > In my experience your argument leads a huge block > > consisting of QT /kdelibs /application that is changed altogether, > > leading to a lower quality of the overall system > > When trying to fix bugs in currently used KDE versions, > > I've frequently been pointed to try the "latest" and "greatest" > > version from CVS on the whole block because that was what > > developers are using. It leads to problems which were not present > > before and I did not get to the point in actually fixing the application > > bug. It is not a weak argument, because stablising KDE application code > > towards a certainly level is getting very cost intensive. > > If you use qt-copy that's your fault :-) It is not a good process to force the stability and schedule of QT=20 onto KDE nor the kdelibs schedule on the applications. > You should take the official > release version from Trolltech and the beta versions of that version have > been tested with KDE plus the results folded back into Qt.=20 That didn't help way back then. > You won't and can't prevent developers to use the newest library and so o= ver time the > whole thing becomes a restriction to say we only use qt-3.1.x because > qt-3.2 may have the classes you want to use. Also, for those who want to > test indian languages they *need* to take Qt 3.2. It *will* be a > requirement. The more it is tested, the better, because within the > timeframe of the KDE 3.2 release a bugfix release of Qt 3.2 will be > available for sure, so we can have KDE 3.2 use a *stable* and *well-teste= d* > Qt 3.2.x I wouldn't fully agree with this. KDE libs should have their own stability criteria and not getting forced by= =20 the QT schedule. 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