--Boundary-02=_TNSI/bDxDFRIq0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 25 July 2003 13:16, Stephan Kulow wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2003 12:24, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 21:31, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > > > I would prefer, if we could keep compatibility with Qt 3.1 for as long > > > as possible, at least until it is part of the major distributions. > > > Requiring a developer to compile a new Qt in order to be able to test= a > > > patch for any KDE application in the KDE CVS is, in my opinion, too > > > much. This will prevent some people from contributing to KDE and that= 's > > > clearly not what we want. > > > > I second that. > > I see this as very weak argument. Compiling kdelibs takes longer than Qt > and while kdelibs changes daily (possibly incompatible), we talk about a > one time Qt compilation. > If Qt 3.2 is released and has less bugs than Qt 3.1.x, we should require = it > as supporting two is a nightmare. It is a question going beyond the pure compile time. In my experience your argument leads a huge block consisting of QT /kdelibs /application that is changed altogether, leading to a lower quality of the overall system, because the resistance to make incompatible changes to the underlying libaries is lowered. Qt 3.2 is not a bug-fix only release, it has incompatible changes. In my experience changing to it will make the situation more unstable. You could see it as testing QT 3.2 with KDE. Weaknesses or bugs in QT 3.1.2 at least are stable. When trying to fix bugs in currently used KDE versions, I've frequently been pointed to try the "latest" and "greatest" version from CVS on the whole block because that was what developers are using. It lead to problems which were not present=20 before and I did not get to the point in actually fixing the application bu= g. It is not a weak argument, because stablising KDE application code=20 towards a certainly level is getting very cost intensive. --Boundary-02=_TNSI/bDxDFRIq0b Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIG5zCCA24w ggLXoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2 YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDMwHhcNMDMwNjI4MTczMjAxWhcNMDgwNjI3 MTczMjAxWjA2MQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEYMBYGA1UECgwPSW50ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJIMQ0wCwYDVQQD DARaUyA0MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQD43bxDYhcb0rC4InYfDPX+TCd+TBVU fzCjsS4e6LS3Xmf3kC9W0LtcvBtYDhwU1pjYgAQUZy3qEOkicQcgP6CzileDs9uzZ15n+Nd1Ye6g xAoEtxY4TDm9J1FsNRycuHPNvOVcF8X/TtWGG1Fw1H+w4RBNUTvm6wKdRc+E1DXSlQIDAQABo4IB gzCCAX8wDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwawYDVR0fBGQwYjBgoF6gXIZabGRh cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3JnL2NuPVd1cnplbCBaUyAzLCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwg Yz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0MB0GA1UdDgQWBBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeei CAqfFjBlBgNVHSMEXjBcgBSg1pV9tld6qf8t9ZykEbqfB+8Jz6FBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUx GDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQAwNQYDVR0R BC4wLIEQY2FAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZYYYaHR0cDovL2NhLmludGV2YXRpb24ubmV0MDUGA1UdEgQu MCyBEGNhQGludGV2YXRpb24uZGWGGGh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm5ldDANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQQFAAOBgQCnwZPGbBIMrPLMXW3Z6w4JPiW/Crd8hR3He8BPY5N7u3ZRSo+mdkAzZ8YwfIJ9Fipj cl2IxQstvE38NAWFdsogdTMOJODVdJpjFEVcVK/u8bZOKismP4eo8X9Y4m0p+WMCG7C6PNMM/+l/ uawHwEbZs4Lp1leIeI8v2/QFP6nMWDCCA3EwggLaoAMCAQICAQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwNjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UEAwwEWlMgNDAeFw0w MzA2MzAxNjE3MzVaFw0wNTA2MjkxNjE3MzVaMEExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKEw9JbnRl dmF0aW9uIEdtYkgxGDAWBgNVBAMTD0Jlcm5oYXJkIFJlaXRlcjCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOB jQAwgYkCgYEAxfEm4PybLti0jk+zmKPB+9Qu+nyjfsOf+VQ2/q5wPlGgQlAmA1xfjfAWCfS7KR1i 3BZmsx/HzW1dv1gNAVqYIk0V0Ls9TGJr8Z0IW1hR0UXY7qRCGAFJwiIKj0kwJepMpH22K/jHjQcn RX8VOdBo8dXyJPQcWcHkj2W8vdonrzUCAwEAAaOCAYIwggF+MAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDgYDVR0P AQH/BAQDAgXgMGQGA1UdHwRdMFswWaBXoFWGU2xkYXA6Ly9jYS5pbnRldmF0aW9uLm9yZy9jbj1a UyA0LCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwgYz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0ME8G CWCGSAGG+EIBDQRCFkBFLU1haWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGVzIGZvciBJbnRldmF0aW9uIGFuZCBmcmll bmRzIChub24tcHJvZHVjdGlvbikuMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSkusKJJedJL1PF+eXAiDJj6tJ9sDBlBgNV HSMEXjBcgBTpC2Y1APybXfobl6bvbeeiCAqfFqFBpD8wPTELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoM D0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDEUMBIGA1UEAwwLV3VyemVsIFpTIDOCAQEwIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmVy bmhhcmRAaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAd4yqTmH1n1flB/7NtXTlYh5nl x/dS6qALdMLB0ZdSuPKsargeb+Nb7VQ2uL8+N9c1N2unMn6mTeNtrXx98/gkGgQlLAyfEZ7JRX2y 28zFpAM/n1nay//M6Q+nUC28QwvfaxzPsIZo3t5+wC1RZcRndCOlBMSbmpmHwcf72Log7TGCATww ggE4AgEBMDswNjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDENMAsGA1UE AwwEWlMgNAIBATAHBgUrDgMCGqBdMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBQdr05kOrDV74FUUUTVflnX423W JjAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMzA3MjUxMjMyMTFa MAsGCSqGSIb3DQEBAQSBgKul0/4bawfg+32r9olmlKsMUEUAWmOnOUpibs5Gt+M7DZeyaJ5DBwgk F7tZ5UYMRzpsHEGAhF+4MvvxOKQ2gNKOal7MhaVP1ep+SrQab4YyBqi6jlU7sL1WBXlaQ081gBIV AFcUxoJYicXbhhKVjqGHMQbzjwPjlR9Mji+LI52UAAAAAAAA --Boundary-02=_TNSI/bDxDFRIq0b--