From kde-core-devel Mon May 19 15:41:21 2003 From: Bernhard Reiter Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:41:21 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: KSSL based S/MIME plugin available X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=105336303918317 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary-02=_lsPy+vhOEBn3v02" --Boundary-02=_lsPy+vhOEBn3v02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 17 May 2003 20:32, George Staikos wrote: > On Saturday 17 May 2003 12:21, Ingo Kl=F6cker wrote: > > > One could be of the opinion that this puts a legal obligation on > > > applications like e.g. KMail. The question whether KMail is a derived > > > work of OpenSSL is irrelevant in that respect since the license only > > > speaks of "use of this software". I think it's the opinion of the FSF > > > that such additional obligation is incompatible with the GPL. > > > > And also incompatible with the LGPL I assume. Else one could simply > > write an LGPL'd wrapper library and then use this in a GPL program. But > > isn't that exactly what Konqueror does by using kssl? If there is no > > licensing problem between Konqueror and OpenSSL then there can't be a > > problem with KMail (resp. the kssl based S/MIME plugin) since both use > > OpenSSL through kssl. Am I missing something? > > You are correct, KMail is in no different situation than Konqueror. =20 Yes, this is most likely. I only pointed to the licensing problem, when I noticed this on the KSSL release. > I'll take care of the IBM issue. I am in the process of contacting them = now. That is about the patent, a completely different issue. Probably the answers of Werner Koch in the fresh thread on gpa-dev@ are interesting: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gpa-dev/2003-May/001302.html In general it is probably not a good idea to contact patent owner to ask them if your software violates their patent, because they will always say "yes" when in doubt. (As you know software patents largely are build on "doubt". ) Thus its probably imperative to study and understand the patent claims before contacting them. It's quite likely that you did and my this paragraph is just another summary. :) In any case: Good luck. --Boundary-02=_lsPy+vhOEBn3v02 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKbjCCAzEw ggKaoAMCAQICAQAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwPDELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2 YXRpb24gR21iSDETMBEGA1UEAwwKVGVzdC1QS0kgMjAeFw0wMjA2MjcxOTU3MjRaFw0wMzA2Mjcx OTU3MjRaMDwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKDA9JbnRldmF0aW9uIEdtYkgxEzARBgNVBAMM ClRlc3QtUEtJIDIwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAM6Ls7OoLqhXRu/fcasqUlf4 PEtudqXc+rJppjXIDJgrX0TGIsLVzjqPkJTW7fRKHAGRs9WGo9XqwOv6ouuKvsb2bZGCFQOPqr5f Kuf3e6v+D03GJESSBfC21wALKiU0O+90ayD7/qqVRE4VBR8hs+f7x4pj/aXIjN/k9oXXvlZtAgMB AAGjggFBMIIBPTAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUIlVYGCccqrgh11q8y5DeASHoR6MwZAYDVR0jBF0wW4AUIlVY GCccqrgh11q8y5DeASHoR6OhQKQ+MDwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKDA9JbnRldmF0aW9u IEdtYkgxEzARBgNVBAMMClRlc3QtUEtJIDKCAQAwDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zBpBgNVHR8EYlVS STpsZGFwOi8vdGhldGlzLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3JnL2NuPVRlc3QtUEtJIDEsIG89SW50ZXZhdGlv biBHbWJILCBjPURFP2NlcnRpZmljYXRlUmV2b2NhdGlvbkxpc3QKMDoGA1UdEQQzMDGBGGludGV2 YXRpb25AaW50ZXZhdGlvbi5kZYYVaHR0cDovL2ludGV2YXRpb24ubmV0MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUA A4GBALCYRadoAAsAEiqXQRJsATPIK4nx+/xEglA8SUthknL8ITF/M3kQKxTrdfBlYTyRJ+VGTIle b0YpCqATE57VRsGNF2A1zAw+X+i64D773fVVOmtIIwDtqs+/XgWEu3/1BSj1Cd9cZy3mOqN+hgg/ cDJD2mDBw/+NE9wMvhPUwY0MMIIDxjCCAy+gAwIBAgIBAzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADA8MQswCQYD VQQGEwJERTEYMBYGA1UECgwPSW50ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJIMRMwEQYDVQQDDApUZXN0LVBLSSAyMB4X DTAyMDcwMTE2MzExOFoXDTAzMDcwMTE2MzExOFowOjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0lu dGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDERMA8GA1UEAwwIVGVzdC1aUzMwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJ AoGBAL8fCjxt/F8TDrfzZNsCrKD60AgOtlb602sSi8CKZPEA/5x+Vsaenc0FOWiuX+u887cQ8bBg 2NjXkmBsM5wJwrOamj5fVHblwsfajZ1Bw6kqnCZx0UH1sQPU+gMMGfhzqlU0jUSx/TN/EjXJWSO+ nTjQaOCOTr1YPi/ZptwE5LHNAgMBAAGjggHYMIIB1DAPBgNVHRMBAf8EBTADAQH/MAsGA1UdDwQE AwIBBjBuBgNVHR8EZzBlMGOgYaBfhl1sZGFwOi8vdGhldGlzLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3JnL2NuPVRl c3QtUEtJIDIsIG89SW50ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJILCBjPURFP2NlcnRpZmljYXRlUmV2b2NhdGlvbkxp c3QwRwYJYIZIAYb4QgENBDoWOENlcnRpZmljYXRlIGlzc3VlZCBieSDDhGd5cHRlbiBQcm9qZWN0 IGNyZXcgZm9yIHRlc3RpbmcuMB0GA1UdDgQWBBQJQPFzkw5CA4s+YE1ezpVOaYp1njBkBgNVHSME XTBbgBQiVVgYJxyquCHXWrzLkN4BIehHo6FApD4wPDELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0lu dGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDETMBEGA1UEAwwKVGVzdC1QS0kgMoIBADA6BgNVHREEMzAxgRhpbnRldmF0 aW9uQGludGV2YXRpb24uZGWGFWh0dHA6Ly9pbnRldmF0aW9uLm5ldDA6BgNVHRIEMzAxgRhpbnRl dmF0aW9uQGludGV2YXRpb24uZGWGFWh0dHA6Ly9pbnRldmF0aW9uLm5ldDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQF AAOBgQBqeieQxS7IICjhH6MXOze/hHCo2kNMkwxTDSc4viKayHdD5uaUuej2lMUWZN8IdAJByRN/ y5RYooauJwO0eIJU2IzKNXvcEun2UnjiO5Jo8JKGNXojkHggyk0NOigga3ptbswZMYnRMtyukx6e quk8qMmhPXxV25RHETdXix6NlzCCA2swggLUoAMCAQICAQwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwOjELMAkG A1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDERMA8GA1UEAwwIVGVzdC1aUzMwHhcN MDMwMTI0MTA0ODI3WhcNMDMwNzIzMTA0ODI3WjBBMQswCQYDVQQGEwJkZTEYMBYGA1UEChMPSW50 ZXZhdGlvbiBHbWJIMRgwFgYDVQQDEw9CZXJuaGFyZCBSZWl0ZXIwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBAKX2+BcBi/2VCqVTAHrx72cPykvtI3DewR/Uq9Z9Zl0xkRejIpLQgkPo/L7gX/mw VgNmLuRPfJMIbecKXb+OlOCaAyGH/5cLVaIJhPHt6ZnJ1uils0zIyrNlYlIZNIASgWS9w2Vjgwnf tlpt8HhtvcCr5ImyCXtcQEilklrwVf4vAgMBAAGjggF4MIIBdDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA4GA1Ud DwEB/wQEAwIF4DBsBgNVHR8EZTBjMGGgX6BdhltsZGFwOi8vdGhldGlzLmludGV2YXRpb24ub3Jn L2NuPVRlc3QtWlMzLCBvPUludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSCwgYz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRp b25MaXN0MD4GCWCGSAGG+EIBDQQxFi9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgw4RneXB0ZW4g UHJvamVjdCBjcmV3LjAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUZYq4uj1YjaHSZ6RFLkrbh6ZGOiMwZAYDVR0jBF0wW4AU CUDxc5MOQgOLPmBNXs6VTmmKdZ6hQKQ+MDwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRgwFgYDVQQKDA9JbnRldmF0 aW9uIEdtYkgxEzARBgNVBAMMClRlc3QtUEtJIDKCAQMwIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmVybmhhcmRAaW50 ZXZhdGlvbi5kZTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAVSf6rw5njH5KaapVrK7eW9MkQXN4ju/cGo9he QzsJ1/vLI0Bn6KDBTyne39n+RseqC3zigdEQIq9EfUs3ncLhJKp0GMRs45r5Mam+JXTO91UHnFW+ WOVnoNL43BX+yaGAKJDqWpY+80odtokVw+i0+ubt+I0Dslf76hXIpv78zDGCAUAwggE8AgEBMD8w OjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxGDAWBgNVBAoMD0ludGV2YXRpb24gR21iSDERMA8GA1UEAwwIVGVzdC1a UzMCAQwwBwYFKw4DAhqgXTAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUngrM0GI4H1lO90TunLDdyChLAKwwGAYJ KoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDMwNTE5MTU0MTIxWjALBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEEgYBd6UjZRPLsSPe6/Dtv11wXKp1bVWLHhvyw2AZG7cNAXg03T5Vp/cDO/v/ibADa wCAInJ3KDZzrkig5Kc1SUPUKJJT2dQJ7BusBPZNL1kh+6m3Vd7Lopx9EnBonCJzxfF66Z/5kXl7c bO6W4m7mILowNoB/O/zaOiVubf0zDx2nGAAAAAAAAA== --Boundary-02=_lsPy+vhOEBn3v02--