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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Release Criteria
From:       Ian Reinhart Geiser <geiseri () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2002-11-15 5:57:19
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On Friday 15 November 2002 12:37 am, George Staikos wrote:
> > Also dists to special things that may complicate this test.
>
>   Yes but we don't care.  that's their job.
>
So basicly you are saying we should nullify any QA in the real world?
We should at least publish what we have tested, because in the real world even 
in a source install we have to live with what dists leave us.  I really dont 
think Sun is actively testing KDE to make sure they did not break it when 
they release a new patch kit ;)

Please browse kde-solaris for a taste of what I am talking about, but the same 
goes for RH 7.1/7.3 (one of the most widely used dists out there) and other 
Unix desktops that use KDE.  University of Washington is still stuck on KDE 
2.2.2 because they cannot seem to get it to build on their RH 7.1 system. I 
think these problems are getting resolved, but its not cool to keep the real 
world from using our shiny new toy.

In the end QA must be meaningful, and to be meaningful we need to test this 
badboy in the wild.  Granted we have other fish to fry in this area, we are 
not wise to ignore it.

> > > - KMail basic functionality is present
> > >         - Requires approval from the KMail team for release.
> > >
> > > - No processes are left lying around on exit
> >
> > Makes sense, but again, there should be an automated way to test this.
> > Like a test script that will start up every KDE app and then exit it to
> > see if its exited cleanly.
>
>    I guess that could be done with the dcop scripting stuff.  Do I hear a
> volunteer? :)
I have made some tests with this, the big problem is the lack of dcop 
interfaces in the end apps...  I have ideas on this but no-one seems to agree 
with me.  I can offer to help write the dcop script for testing though.  
Every app is able to be closed via dcop I think, but it would be interesting 
to see if we could add enough interfaces to have them tested automaticly.

Cheers
	-ian reinhart geiser
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