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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Clipboard for the dummies
From:       Christoph Cullmann <crossfire () babylon2k ! de>
Date:       2002-11-02 20:18:49
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On Saturday 02 November 2002 21:07, Richard Bos wrote:
> Op zaterdag 2 november 2002 19:51, schreef David Faure:
> > On Saturday 02 November 2002 19:24, Richard Bos wrote:
> > > Op zaterdag 2 november 2002 16:23, schreef Christoph Cullmann:
> > > > I don't see any case where the automagically mouse/keyboard selection
> > > > would hurt usergroup 2, as they simply don't know and don't use it
> > > > (and if they try it and don't like it, they can simply don't use it,
> > > > won't hurt them, or ?), but usergroup 1 (like me and others) would be
> > > > hurt very much if we abandon the selection thing.
> > > >
> > > > Why break something that many people are used to, only to avoid that
> > > > new people don't use it ? I don't think it will confuse any new user,
> > > > as the selection don't overwrite the clipboard and won't break their
> > > > "from windows" known CTRL-C/V stuff.
> > >
> > > Well said Christoph.  I know many people that are used to the copy and
> > > paste using the mouse (MMB).  It would hurt me and those people, if the
> > > <ctrl>-V etc alone would be supported by KDE!  So, please keep on
> > > supporting copy and paste using the mouse (MMB)!
> >
> > I think it was never question of completely removing the lmb/mmb stuff.
> > But the question was rather: *if* lmb/mmb also requires "unique global
> > selection", i.e. selecting something unselects the previously selected
> > text, even in another application (as is currently the case), *then* this
> > might confuse the "windows" users, who don't use lmb/mmb but want to be
> > allowed multiple selections (e.g. one per window).
I thought Carsten wanted a complete removal of that middle mouse button stuff, 
but perhaps I have misread/misunderstood his mail ;)

>
> David,
>
> thanks for the explanation.  As usefull you make it clear what is going on.
>
> > In that case one might think of an option, to choose whether selections
> > are global or per-window.
> > The X11 way is: global, which makes it a bit easier to use lmb/mmb (you
> > know what mmb is going to insert), and the windows way is per-window -
> > lmb/mmb would still work, IMHO, just in a slightly more confusing way
> > (multiple selections).
>
> I would prefer the current X11 way.  Is you state: one knows what mmb is
> going to insert.
Me, too.

- -- 
Christoph "Crossfire" Cullmann
Kate/KDE developer
cullmann@kde.org
http://kate.kde.org
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