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On Saturday 02 November 2002 01:43, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
> Hiya,
>
> > My new reasoning would be more along the lines of: what the user
> > _voluntarily_ selects gets copied.
>
> that's exactly the reason for the option "Setting Clipboard implicitly se=
ts
> Selection". Whenever I explicitly perform a "Copy" action, be it Ctrl-C/X
> or a "Copy" in a menubar or contextmenu, I expect being able to paste that
> with both MMB and Ctrl-V (or "Paste" in a menubar).
>
> I see MMB as a convenience method for pasting stuff when my fingers are n=
ot
> resting on Ctrl-V.
>
> So, ideally, I would see this whole Selection-thing being removed
> altogether, i.e. you always have to press Cltr-C to put something into the
> clipboard. Exceptions are terminal programs where Ctrl-C is already taken
> of course.
>
> This might be a radical change for some, but that's my view. IMHO quite
> easy to understand for the user. And I haven't seen a Windows-user
> complaining that he has to press Ctrl-C for copying.

Here my point of view about what users will do:

1. Old X11/Unix users:
They are used to have seperated mouse/keyboard selection and the=20
CTRL(/ALT)-C/V copy & paste.

2. Fresh X11/Unix users from the windows world:
They normally don't know about the "automagically" selection and use their=
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CTRL-C/V shortcuts or the menus.

I don't see any case where the automagically mouse/keyboard selection would=
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hurt usergroup 2, as they simply don't know and don't use it (and if they t=
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it and don't like it, they can simply don't use it, won't hurt them, or ?),=
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but usergroup 1 (like me and others) would be hurt very much if we abandon=
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the selection thing.

Why break something that many people are used to, only to avoid that new=20
people don't use it ? I don't think it will confuse any new user, as the=20
selection don't overwrite the clipboard and won't break their "from windows=
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known CTRL-C/V stuff.

just my 2 =E2=82=AC-cent
Christoph

>
> Cheers
> Carsten Pfeiffer

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Christoph "Crossfire" Cullmann
Kate/KDE developer
cullmann@kde.org
http://kate.kde.org
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