From kde-core-devel Sat Aug 03 15:00:34 2002 From: Neil Stevens Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 15:00:34 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: KDE Jabber Library X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=102838681118265 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday August 03, 2002 06:29, Tim Jansen wrote: > > It is not finished yet, but I am already quite proud of it. The Psi > > Jabber My proposal is to rename the library to "kimp" (to stand for > > KDE Instant Messaging and Presence) and for it to be included and > > developed within kdelibs. Name it after Jabber or the protocol name, I say. No need to get misleadingly vague in the name. It only does Jabber, and that's a good thing, so name it as such. > > By making Jabber so easily accessible from KDE, I think we'd see a lot > > more buzz and developer interest in both KDE and Jabber. What do you > > think? Well, "buzz" and marketing wouldn't be enough reason to do it, I think. The question is whether developers actually are willing to start using Jabber, as a specific endorsement against tying KDE to proprietary servers. If not, then your library has no place in kdelibs. If so, then your library would be a great addition to kdelibs. > A few comments: > - I think that an IMP library is a very good idea and would offer a > easier and more natural way to offer many services. Games developers want a way to send invitations. Other apps might want a way to send other messages or data, or even just signal presense. The combination of a desktop jabber server and a client jabber library would alow this to be done in a standard, interoperable way. > - My personal problem with Jabber as a foundation for IMP services in > KDE is that it is server-centric, AFAIK. This makes it pretty useless in > home and ad-hoc networks that don't have an internet connection. Jabber is actually one of the *least* centralized messaging systems out there. Jabber is like email, while other systems attempt to lock you in to some proprietary server. With Jabber, you actually have the possibility of running your own local server, unlike every single other major messaging system out there, other than email. Ultimately, you have a choice - you can use the open, in-the-process-of-standardizing Jabber; the open, standardized email; or you can write your own thing and not be interoperable. - -- Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9S/AYf7mnligQOmERAoKPAJ9k6mOrbX3pDhxDhOrUDoXebl3s9gCfVG1e 1V148Iszm4XOau9GTNslpoc= =ufyf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----