Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2002 07:38 schrieb Don Sanders:

> > >On Monday May 06, 2002 01:47, Waldo Bastian wrote:
> > > > I support that. I am not opposed to the idea of releasing KDE
> > > > 3.1 as just kdelibs and kdebase
>
> Occasionally core developers forget it but kdelibs and kdebase by
> themselves are not KDE, and they should not be released as KDE.
>
> As far as I'm concerned what makes up KDE is defined in the founding
> email and it includes a lot more than just libs and base.
>
> Having said that I don't have a problem with kdelibs/kdebase being
> released seperately but call it kde-core or something, don't call it
> KDE because it's not.

Thank you. This is exactly what I was about to say as well when I read the 
above quote from Waldo.

If we give up on the idea of KDE as a complete desktop environment we give 
up on its main reason for being, IMO. What would become of that whole 
community thing if we totally atomize the work of all participants and stop 
working to a common release which probably not only to me is also something 
like "our distribution"?

If people need separate releases apart from or on top of that, fine, no 
problem (they should only be aware, that it may be impossible to always 
have translations, documentation etc. in place since many translation 
"teams" are still more or less "one man shows"). If authors from the 
outside need a better chance to benefit from CVS and if they need more room 
for experimenting than kdenonbeta currently offers, sure, why not, if they 
(or we) can think of something that is practicable with our resources.

Just let us find a way to reconcile this with the work of translators, 
documenters, artists, and the very basis of what many or most of us were 
trying to achieve here over the last years. If I'm not totally mistaken 
what many of us were after was the idea of KDE "as a whole". And this 
included applications that "should allow a user to do his everyday tasks 
with it, like starting applications, reading mail, configuring his desktop, 
editing some files, delete some files, look at some pictures,", it included 
even games, newsreaders, drawing tools, and fun stuff. At least that is 
what Matthias Ettrich's "founding mail" said back in 1996 and every single 
of our release notes since then.

Regards,

Thomas

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