-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > >$0.02 (canadian pennies at that...) Well, I'm going to put my $0.02 in favour of TOra's inclusion, though I think the NZ dollar is currently even lower than Canada's ;-) I think the emphasis on Oracle over is a pity (though understandable). The major users of this program will no doubt have Oracle, especially with cheap Linux pricing. However, I see the inclusion in KDE as bringing mainly casual users to TOra and these people will _not_ have Oracle. Against this, as Shaheed has pointed out, I expect inclusion to increase non Oracle support in TOra: Make something available and support will follow, but wait for support and you wait forever. At least TOra has some support for MySQL/postgres now. The more I think about TOra the more uses I can think of for it. Yes, I suspect it will have less users than say kspread, but I expect it will have more users than say kdevelop and we include that in KDE. I think it will be a very popular application, and quite possibly make a number of businesses pick KDE over Windows. I would put it in koffice: It appeals to a wide number of people using KDE for work and these people probably won't be using other development tools. I do have two concerns: How compatable is it? I think it is essential for everything in KDE to compile on at least BSD and Solaris before it is included, though this is quite a general rule which I'm in no position to make. My second concern is the size: The binary on sourceforge is three megs which is much smaller than I guessed but still adds an extra fifteen minutes to those of us downloading KDE via a modem. Corrin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8B/0Si5A0ZsG8x8cRAvXmAJsHtds7g8ViC8mkfvIG0DcnylRBTwCdHph3 oP7t6tylo7HC0KiJqg9paeU= =wPOz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----