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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: using gitlab ultimate
From:       Fathi Boudra <fabo () kde ! org>
Date:       2023-08-02 13:35:26
Message-ID: CANZTuJqs-A52XzG8HiRP+Sr8aFHChHai_QjYt6EXv_oKLhV3tA () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:41 PM Harald Sitter <sitter@kde.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:35 PM <christoph@cullmann.io> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-08-02 16:26, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:23 PM Ingo Klöcker <kloecker@kde.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mittwoch, 2. August 2023 15:55:44 CEST Harald Sitter wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 3:48 PM Sune Vuorela <nospam@vuorela.dk> wrote:
> > >> > > On 2023-08-02, Harald Sitter <sitter@kde.org> wrote:
> > >> > > > I don't think so
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As such, I have a hard time seeing that these mentioned features is
> > >> > > important enough to give in on what I feel are our principles of a
> > >> > > organization doing free software.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have a hard time finding any featureset where it would be important
> > >> > > enough.
> > >> >
> > >> > It is my understanding that non-trivial amounts of time have been
> > >> > spent on making a CI dashboard that now nobody uses because it is
> > >> > defunct or some such. In essence we've wasted valuable free software
> > >> > time. That seems a pretty compelling reason in my book.
> > >>
> > >> No, it's a pretty compelling reason to convince the GitLab folks to
> > >> make their
> > >> dashboard available to everyone.
> > >
> > > I'll not stop you :)
> > > Until that happens the argument stands.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't think using commercial non-free solutions as the primary tool
> > for our development
> > is a good idea.
> >
> > Beside that, that is billed per user: https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/
> >
> > e.g. $1188 USD per year per non-guest user
> >
> > That looks like a lot money to pay given we have more than 10 users,
> > even if it
> > has less costs if you buy xxx accounts.
>
> It is my understanding that they are giving it away for free to free
> software projects.

It's worth double checking. I've been running a gitlab instance for an
open source project using the free version for the last 3 years.
The free/opensource version comes with no support from gitlab. Last
time I checked, using the ultimate version will require paying users
licenses but you get support (included in this package).
Depending on the features set, you can reduce the bill to get the
premium version (however, we don't get the "free guest users") instead
of ultimate.

I'll suggest getting in touch with them and clarify the costs, as they
can negotiate on a case by case basis. If my experience serves,
nothing is free with gitlab. It isn't a non-profit organization.

> HS
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