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Subject:    Re: Retirement of Drupal 7/8 sites (kdevelop, skrooge, blogs, behindkde)
From:       Stephane MANKOWSKI <stephane () mankowski ! fr>
Date:       2023-01-15 10:44:26
Message-ID: 41a8fd22-71f8-3b2c-8f3e-b5a3306cfd0d () mankowski ! fr
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Hi Ben,

As the main developer of Skrooge and administrator and developer of 
skrooge.org (currently on Drupal), _it is normal that I am in charge of 
the migration_.
But, I don't know Hugo and I already have other websites on wordpress,
so I would appreciate if I could make skrooge.org on wordpress.
*Is it possible ?*

Regards,
StÃ©phane

Le 15/01/2023 Ã  10:21, Paul Brown a Ã©crit  :
> On Sunday, 15 January 2023 08:04:18 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For some time now it has been known to us that the upgrade path from one
>> given Drupal major version to the next is usually a very difficult road
>> with lots of breakage involved.
>> The conversion from Drupal 7 or 8 to Drupal 9 is no different in this
>> regard - basically being a content export and then reimport.
>>
>> Due to the level of disruption and risk of breakage involved this isn't
>> something done lightly but with the end of support for Drupal 8 and the
>> incoming end of support for Drupal 7 we need to take action on this sooner
>> rather later.
>>
>> At this time I'm only focusing on the smaller sites, so akademy.kde.org (in
>> the process of moving to Hugo) and dot.kde.org (to be figured out) are out
>> of scope for this email.
>>
>> We currently have the following sites running on Drupal 7/8:
>> - dot.kde.org
>> - akademy.kde.org
>> - kdevelop.org
>> - skrooge.org
>> - behindkde.org
>> - blogs.kde.org
>>
>> Given that promo is currently not making active use of the site, at this
>> time my intention is to create a static archive of behindkde.org.
>>
>> In the case of KDevelop and Skrooge, it would make the most sense to
>> convert them both into Hugo websites to minimise the long term maintenance
>> cost and to make them part of the KDE family of sites.
>> If anyone would like to work on this please contact me and I will arrange
>> for a sanitized database copy to be made available to you.
>>
>> In the event that doesn't happen, converting them into static sites seems
>> like the best path forward.
> Hi Ben,
>
> Drupal is, not to put too fine a point on it, terrible in every conceivable way
> and we dread having to post to the dot. We welcome the transition away from
> it.
>
> Promo has repeatedly asked for WordPress to supersede Drupal for the Dot, as
> we have found creating content for a Hugo site (something we do at least every
> 2 months for KDE Gear and Plasma announcements) difficult, inflexible, slow,
> convoluted, and error-prone. So not much better than Drupal.
>
> As there are already several WordPress-based websites on the KDE
> infrastructure, such as hattps://labplot.kde.org andhttps://kdenlive.org, we
> think that having this is not too much to ask.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
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    <p>Hi Ben,<span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
            class="ryNqvb"><br>
          </span></span></span></p>
    <p><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
            class="ryNqvb">As the main developer of Skrooge and
            administrator and developer of skrooge.org (currently on
            Drupal), <u>it is normal that I am in charge of the
              migration</u>.</span></span> <span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
            class="ryNqvb"><br>
            But, I don't know Hugo and I already have other websites on
            wordpress, <br>
            so I would appreciate if I could make skrooge.org on
            wordpress.</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span
            class="ryNqvb">
          </span></span><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb"><br>
            <b>Is it possible ?</b></span></span></span></p>
    <p><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
            class="ryNqvb">Regards,<br>
            StÃ©phane<br>
          </span></span></span></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/01/2023 Ã  10:21, Paul Brown a
      Ã©crit  :<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:13180915.dW097sEU6C@tyrell">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Sunday, 15 January 2023 08:04:18 CET Ben \
Cooksley wrote: </pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi all,

For some time now it has been known to us that the upgrade path from one
given Drupal major version to the next is usually a very difficult road
with lots of breakage involved.
The conversion from Drupal 7 or 8 to Drupal 9 is no different in this
regard - basically being a content export and then reimport.

Due to the level of disruption and risk of breakage involved this isn't
something done lightly but with the end of support for Drupal 8 and the
incoming end of support for Drupal 7 we need to take action on this sooner
rather later.

At this time I'm only focusing on the smaller sites, so akademy.kde.org (in
the process of moving to Hugo) and dot.kde.org (to be figured out) are out
of scope for this email.

We currently have the following sites running on Drupal 7/8:
- dot.kde.org
- akademy.kde.org
- kdevelop.org
- skrooge.org
- behindkde.org
- blogs.kde.org

Given that promo is currently not making active use of the site, at this
time my intention is to create a static archive of behindkde.org.

In the case of KDevelop and Skrooge, it would make the most sense to
convert them both into Hugo websites to minimise the long term maintenance
cost and to make them part of the KDE family of sites.
If anyone would like to work on this please contact me and I will arrange
for a sanitized database copy to be made available to you.

In the event that doesn't happen, converting them into static sites seems
like the best path forward.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
Hi Ben,

Drupal is, not to put too fine a point on it, terrible in every conceivable way 
and we dread having to post to the dot. We welcome the transition away from 
it.

Promo has repeatedly asked for WordPress to supersede Drupal for the Dot, as 
we have found creating content for a Hugo site (something we do at least every 
2 months for KDE Gear and Plasma announcements) difficult, inflexible, slow, 
convoluted, and error-prone. So not much better than Drupal.

As there are already several WordPress-based websites on the KDE 
infrastructure, such as hattps://labplot.kde.org and <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://kdenlive.org">https://kdenlive.org</a>, we  think that having this is \
not too much to ask.

Cheers

Paul
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