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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: The status of freenode (the IRC network used by KDE)
From:       Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2021-05-23 1:42:21
Message-ID: CACcA1RqSx1+aL36YU6j6dJJfKwt1jv4F6Hx3D-f5dstc3X0b6Q () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 3:24 AM Nicol=C3=A1s Alvarez
<nicolas.alvarez@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> El s=C3=A1b, 22 de may. de 2021 a la(s) 21:17, Aleix Pol (aleixpol@kde.or=
g) escribi=C3=B3:
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:57 PM Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:45 PM Martin Fl=C3=B6ser <mgraesslin@kde.or=
g> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2021, 10:34:26 CEST schrieb Christian:
> > > > > Dear KDE community,
> > > > >
> > > > > KDE has been using the free services of the freenode IRC networks=
 for a
> > > > > little bit more than two decades, and hopefully happily and succe=
ssfully
> > > > > so.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for informing us. This sounds horrible and must have been a =
very
> > > > stressful time for all of you staffers.
> > > >
> > > > > Due to this leakage, Andrew Lee (former PIA/LTM, now shells.com)
> > > > > learned of the new situation and asked democratically elected
> > > > > freenode volunteers to step down from their position, as seen in =
the
> > > > > logs linked on [4] [5] [6]
> > > > > Therefore making the takover attempt and some details public.
> > > >
> > > > Given that this is driven by shells.com I think the KDE community s=
hould step
> > > > up and remove all references to shells.com. Their behavior in this =
case goes
> > > > clearly against our values.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that we are jumping to conclusions only based on hears=
ay.
> > >
> > > Today at the Board call we talked with Fuchs and Duffus about
> > > Freenode. I've reached out to our Shells contact to see what's
> > > happening and will be talking to them soon.
> > > At this point the connection between this Freenode kerfuffle and
> > > Shells is unclear to me, I'd prefer to understand what the situation
> > > is before we ban them from our websites because they're somehow
> > > related by blood.
> > >
> > > Aleix
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > We (Eike and I) had a short discussion with Shells's CEO and it
> > doesn't seem like their relationship to freenode is all that tight as
> > portrayed. I do not think we should fire them from being our sponsors
> > or to try to work with us.
> >
> > This does not mean though that we should stay on freenode. If you ask
> > me, our matrix instance has been solid enough for it to be the
> > official way to join. If we bridge to one or another, I'd say it
> > largely should follow wherever people are.
> >
> > This also does not mean that I believe Shells are above anyone else. I
> > know they're observing this situation, let's see what they have in
> > mind. They should be at Akademy, it's probably a good opportunity to
> > discuss.
> >
> > Aleix
>
> Could you please clarify: is Andrew Lee the current CEO of Shells and
> the person you talked to?

We talked to Alex Lee, the CEO. They are siblings. Andrew Lee is an
investor in the company.

Aleix
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