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Subject: Re: Formal request to set up a KDE Discourse instance
From: Clemens Toennies <starbuck () netrunner-os ! com>
Date: 2021-03-06 13:54:38
Message-ID: CAFLNUosiUQNVnvRL3tdyWLPZV8FEWvhYht=U8u-0Qhw5SizK3w () mail ! gmail ! com
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Maybe it's an indication that putting monetary resources into these
infrastructure projects (especially in light of KDE's current job hire
initiative) would be a good idea?
To be clear, this is not to say anything about the imo outstanding jobs of
the current voluntaries.
On Feb 23, 2021 23:53, "Ben Cooksley" <bcooksley@kde.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:26 AM Nate Graham <nate@kde.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello faithful Sysadmins (with kde-community and Adam CCd),
>>
>
> Hi Nate,
>
>
>>
>> I would like to formally request that a KDE discourse instance be set up
>> as a testbed for now, with the ultimate goal of replacing the somewhat
>> moribund forums.kde.org if people prefer it.
>>
>> Over the years I've seen this suggested multiple times by multiple
>> people, but without much movement. Since then, the Krita people have set
>> up a Discourse instance themselves, outside of KDE infrastructure. Many
>> other FOSS communities already use Discourse, including Debian, Ubuntu,
>> Fedora, Manjaro, GNOME, and Mozilla.
>>
>> I think it's time for us to follow suit and set up an official discourse
>> instance on KDE Infrastructure.
>>
>> Last I heard, there was an objection based on the fact that its
>> deployment mechanism requires Docker. I don't care much for Docker
>> myself, but if it's the only way to set up Discourse, I think it's time
>> to bite the bullet and use it despite reservations, so we can facilitate
>> this longstanding request from the KDE community.
>>
>
> May I take this as a formal request from yourself that Gitlab CI is
> deprioritised and delayed?
>
> Based on the extremely frequent requests we get concerning it in
> #kde-sysadmin I am not sure if your request here is in line with general
> community consensus.
>
> Also, be aware that Sysadmin currently has other infrastructure level
> projects underway needed to get us off Ubuntu 16.04, which are currently
> delayed because we haven't had anyone volunteer to assist us with adding
> support for OAuth2/MyKDE to Reimbursements.
> Based on the above, I assume you are also requesting that we delay this,
> and accept the corresponding security issues that will accompany it when
> Ubuntu 16.04 loses support in the coming months in order to get this
> actioned?
>
>
>>
>> Nate
>>
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
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<p dir="ltr">Maybe it's an indication that putting monetary resources into these \
infrastructure projects (especially in light of KDE's current job hire \
initiative) would be a good idea?</p> <p dir="ltr">To be clear, this is not to say \
anything about the imo outstanding jobs of the current voluntaries.</p> <div \
class="gmail_quote">On Feb 23, 2021 23:53, "Ben Cooksley" <<a \
href="mailto:bcooksley@kde.org">bcooksley@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br \
type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On \
Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:26 AM Nate Graham <<a href="mailto:nate@kde.org" \
target="_blank">nate@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello faithful \
Sysadmins (with kde-community and Adam CCd),<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi \
Nate,</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
I would like to formally request that a KDE discourse instance be set up <br>
as a testbed for now, with the ultimate goal of replacing the somewhat <br>
moribund <a href="http://forums.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">forums.kde.org</a> if people prefer it.<br> <br>
Over the years I've seen this suggested multiple times by multiple <br>
people, but without much movement. Since then, the Krita people have set <br>
up a Discourse instance themselves, outside of KDE infrastructure. Many <br>
other FOSS communities already use Discourse, including Debian, Ubuntu, <br>
Fedora, Manjaro, GNOME, and Mozilla.<br>
<br>
I think it's time for us to follow suit and set up an official discourse <br>
instance on KDE Infrastructure.<br>
<br>
Last I heard, there was an objection based on the fact that its <br>
deployment mechanism requires Docker. I don't care much for Docker <br>
myself, but if it's the only way to set up Discourse, I think it's time <br>
to bite the bullet and use it despite reservations, so we can facilitate <br>
this longstanding request from the KDE \
community.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>May I take this as a formal request \
from yourself that Gitlab CI is deprioritised and \
delayed?</div><div><br></div><div>Based on the extremely frequent requests we get \
concerning it in #kde-sysadmin I am not sure if your request here is in line with \
general community consensus.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, be aware that Sysadmin \
currently has other infrastructure level projects underway needed to get us off \
Ubuntu 16.04, which are currently delayed because we haven't had anyone volunteer \
to assist us with adding support for OAuth2/MyKDE to Reimbursements.</div><div>Based \
on the above, I assume you are also requesting that we delay this, and accept the \
corresponding security issues that will accompany it when Ubuntu 16.04 loses support \
in the coming months in order to get this actioned?</div><div> </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Nate<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Ben </div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
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