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Subject: Re: Proposal: Mailing List owner policy
From: Ben Cooksley <bcooksley () kde ! org>
Date: 2020-09-09 9:45:53
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:42 PM Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> El dimecres, 9 de setembre de 2020, a les 11:00:21 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 7:43 AM Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> >
> > > El dimarts, 25 d'agost de 2020, a les 23:28:28 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
> va
> > > escriure:
> > > > So it seems there was some agreement that is something that could
> > > improve but we didn't 100% agree on what to do. I've scheduled an
> Akademy
> > > BoF, hopefully we can reach to a conclusion there.
> > > >
> > > >
> https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September
> > >
> > > Summary of the discussion at https://share.kde.org/s/PeFRH82FmFgDrep
> > >
> > > I'll start contacting people about doing work for several points
> probably
> > > tomorrow :)
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed summary from the BoF Albert, it's appreciated.
> >
> > Responding to some of those points with my Sysadmin hat on:
> >
> > > Enable archives on all the mailing lists that don't have it enabled
> >
> > We should probably look at backfilling the archives for those lists as
> > well, given some of them are the older lists that document much of the
> > history of the KDE project (and should therefore be as best preserved as
> > possible)
>
> Yes we should try backfilling, but what we discussed and agreed is that
> this should not be a blocker.
>
> The more time we go without archives, the more those archives will be
> incomplete.
>
> So if we can't back fill the archives in X time, we just need to accept
> our loses and enable the archives.
>
We can always backfill after enabling archiving, although it is easier if
we have them to start with.
(That is in effect what I did recently with the merger of
kde-distro-packagers into distributions)
>
> >
> > > Where did the archives of the recently disabled/archive mailing lists
> go?
> > Still publicly available?
> >
> > These archives should all still be accessible at
> > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/$listname/
>
> Good :)
>
> >
> > > Ask sysadmins if we can have a text file in invent...
> >
> > Would it help if we created a team at https://invent.kde.org/teams/ for
> > this, to allow you to make use of the snippets/wiki functionality of
> Gitlab?
>
> This needs more refining, i guess let's create the list of owners first
> and once we have that discuss it there?
>
Sure thing.
>
> Cheers,
> Albert
>
Cheers,
Ben
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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:42 PM Albert Astals Cid <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">El dimecres, 9 de \
setembre de 2020, a les 11:00:21 CEST, Ben Cooksley va escriure:<br> > On Wed, Sep \
9, 2020 at 7:43 AM Albert Astals Cid <<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > <br>
> > El dimarts, 25 d'agost de 2020, a les 23:28:28 CEST, Albert Astals Cid \
va<br> > > escriure:<br>
> > > So it seems there was some agreement that is something that could<br>
> > improve but we didn't 100% agree on what to do. I've scheduled an \
Akademy<br> > > BoF, hopefully we can reach to a conclusion there.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Summary of the discussion at <a \
href="https://share.kde.org/s/PeFRH82FmFgDrep" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://share.kde.org/s/PeFRH82FmFgDrep</a><br> > ><br>
> > I'll start contacting people about doing work for several points \
probably<br> > > tomorrow :)<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Thanks for the detailed summary from the BoF Albert, it's appreciated.<br>
> <br>
> Responding to some of those points with my Sysadmin hat on:<br>
> <br>
> > Enable archives on all the mailing lists that don't have it enabled<br>
> <br>
> We should probably look at backfilling the archives for those lists as<br>
> well, given some of them are the older lists that document much of the<br>
> history of the KDE project (and should therefore be as best preserved as<br>
> possible)<br>
<br>
Yes we should try backfilling, but what we discussed and agreed is that this should \
not be a blocker.<br> <br>
The more time we go without archives, the more those archives will be incomplete.<br>
<br>
So if we can't back fill the archives in X time, we just need to accept our loses \
and enable the archives.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We can always backfill \
after enabling archiving, although it is easier if we have them to start \
with.</div><div>(That is in effect what I did recently with the merger of \
kde-distro-packagers into distributions)</div><div> </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
> <br>
> > Where did the archives of the recently disabled/archive mailing lists \
go?<br> > Still publicly available?<br>
> <br>
> These archives should all still be accessible at<br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/$listname/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/$listname/</a><br> <br>
Good :)<br>
<br>
> <br>
> > Ask sysadmins if we can have a text file in invent...<br>
> <br>
> Would it help if we created a team at <a href="https://invent.kde.org/teams/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://invent.kde.org/teams/</a> for<br> > this, \
to allow you to make use of the snippets/wiki functionality of Gitlab?<br> <br>
This needs more refining, i guess let's create the list of owners first and once \
we have that discuss it there?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sure \
thing.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Cheers,<br>
Albert<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Ben</div><div> \
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solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
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> > Cheers,<br>
> > Albert<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
> Ben<br>
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> > > Cheers,<br>
> > > Albert<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Cheers,<br>
> > > > Albert<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > [1] yes, i know they are not the same, but since one is a subset \
of<br> > > the other, let's pretend they are.<br>
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