On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:

El dijous, 23 de juliol de 2020,= a les 0:31:29 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va escriure:
> Dear Community,
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> One important part of mailing lists being healthy is owners/moderators= [1].
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> They moderate the lists, they help users that want to subscribe/unsubs= cribe but don't know how to, they enact emergency moderation in the ver= y very seldom case that it is needed, etc.
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> So to keep our mailing lists healthy we need to be sure to have health= y list owners.
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> In plural, more than one, because from time to time, we go on vacation= and the list duties still need taking care of.
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> For that I'd like to enact this policy:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mailing lists should have at least 2 active owners,= ideally 3 [Obviously exceptions apply, like if we just started a mailing l= ist to coordinate translators for a language that has no translation in KDE= yet, we'd probably have no way to get 2 list owners]
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> One keyword in that sentence is "active".
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> Mailing list ownership/moderation un-activity is hard to detect.
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> One way to potentially detect it, is by those summaries that sysadmin = sends periodically for lists with lots of mails to moderate, but that doesn= 't cover all the cases.
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> For example, it's possible that a mailing list has 2 owners and on= ly one of them is inactive, since the other one is keeping the list in work= ing condition we don't see it as a problem, but if that person goes on = holiday, then it suddenly is.
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> For that I'd like to enact this policy sub-point:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mailing list owners will be contacted every year as= king if they are still active and if they want to continue being list owner= or if they'd prefer we find a substitute.
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> If they say "please find a substitute" or fail to answer in = a given time frame (I'd say a month is fair), they will be removed as o= wners and in case the "at least 2 active owners, ideally 3" polic= y is broken we'll find a new person.
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> Does that sound something like we could agree on?
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> Then the big question is "who will do this work?" Because it= seems quite a bit of work (albeit only once a year). I would suggest the C= ommunity Working Group does this, as it's a way to keep our community h= ealthy, but i understand it's quite some work, so i volunteer to do it = if the CWG doesn't feel this is a task they want to take on.
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> Things I'm missing?
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> Improvement suggestions?

So it seems there was some agreement that is something that could improve b= ut we didn't 100% agree on what to do. I've scheduled an Akademy Bo= F, hopefully we can reach to a conclusion there.

https://community.kde.org/Akad= emy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September

Cheers,
=C2=A0 Albert

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> Cheers,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Albert
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> [1] yes, i know they are not the same, but since one is a subset of th= e other, let's pretend they are.
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