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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: KDE Apps name trademarks
From:       Jonathan Riddell <jr () jriddell ! org>
Date:       2020-07-12 20:45:17
Message-ID: CANX=XXMLHwrDhoLa6hoUNaFY0Y_LfBiVQAH2CSvYWy1uhgsTpw () mail ! gmail ! com
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That being said, to answer your actual question, I would treat this in
several elements:

>
>    1. Do we want to trademark the names of more KDE products (I say
>    "more" since "KDE" is already trademarked, so arguably at least one pr=
oduct
>    is already trademarked). I personally have no strong opinion, but I ag=
ree
>    that trademarking can discourage modification. There are ways to mitig=
ate
>    that, including publishing a trademark policy, offering a contact poin=
t to
>    ask about the acceptability of changes, and facilitating renaming, for
>    example by adding a compilation option to set a different name. I woul=
d
>    also suggest committing to publish a list of all trademark enforcement
>    actions done, so those who consider modifying can get an idea of what =
will
>    actually be accepted or not.
>
>
>    1. If we do agree to trademark more names, which names? We tend to
>    have lots of names for lots of projects, many of which I suppose may t=
ake a
>    while to be sufficiently important to justify trademarking. I propose =
a
>    wiki page as a way to list candidates and poll developers about each
>
>
>    1. For those names we do trademark, how much should the =E2=84=A2 symb=
ol be
>    used? I would not like seeing it everywhere, but I do not mind seeing =
it in
>    the About screen, for instance.
>    2. Who would own those trademarks?
>
>
My proposal would be to trademark all app names since they are all liable
to be hijacked by third parties for whatever purposes.  It would mean
adding a =E2=84=A2 symbol on web pages where we promote those apps.  They w=
ould be
owned by KDE e.v.  Other apps like KOffice have done this in the past as I
say.  However it seems nobody is very much in suppose of the idea so we'll
just have to live with third parties living off our good names.

Jonathan

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<div dir="ltr">That being said, to answer your actual question, I would treat
      this in several elements:<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>  <ol>
      <li>Do we want to trademark the names of more KDE products (I say
        &quot;more&quot; since &quot;KDE&quot; is already trademarked, so arguably at \
least  one product is already trademarked). I personally have no strong
        opinion, but I agree that trademarking can discourage
        modification. There are ways to mitigate that, including
        publishing a trademark policy, offering a contact point to ask
        about the acceptability of changes, and facilitating renaming,
        for example by adding a compilation option to set a different
        name. I would also suggest committing to publish a list of all
        trademark enforcement actions done, so those who consider
        modifying can get an idea of what will actually be accepted or
        not.</li></ol></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><ol>  <li>If we do agree to trademark more \
names, which names? We tend  to have lots of names for lots of projects, many of \
which I  suppose may take a while to be sufficiently important to justify
        trademarking. I propose a wiki page as a way to list candidates
        and poll developers about each <br></li></ol></div></blockquote><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><ol>
      <li>For those names we do trademark, how much should the <span>™ \
</span>symbol be used? I would not like  seeing it everywhere, but I do not mind \
seeing it in the About  screen, for instance.</li>
      <li>Who would own those \
trademarks?<br></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div>My proposal would be to trademark all app names since they \
are all liable to be hijacked by third parties for whatever purposes.   It would mean \
adding a <span>™ </span>symbol on web pages where we promote those apps.   They \
would be owned by KDE e.v.   Other apps like KOffice have done this in the past as I \
say.   However it seems nobody is very much in suppose of the idea so we&#39;ll just \
have to live with third parties living off our good \
names.</div><div><br></div><div>Jonathan</div><div><br></div></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div>



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