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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: Showing respect (was: Re: The KDEPIM / Akonadi situation)
From:       Carl Schwan <carl () carlschwan ! eu>
Date:       2020-06-12 18:47:55
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Le vendredi, juin 12, 2020 1:45 PM, Kevin Ottens <ervin@kde.org> a =C3=A9c=
rit=C2=A0:

> On Friday, 12 June 2020 15:17:46 CEST Christian Loosli wrote:
> =


> > Am Freitag, 12. Juni 2020, 15:04:34 CEST schrieb Friedrich W. H. Kosse=
bau:
> > =


> > > I am missing what this email thread here should achieve, despite bei=
ng
> > > demotivating for those whose product is talked about or even bad-mou=
thing
> > > them. We all know there are big and small flaws. Those get fixed by =
people
> > > working on them. Not by people showing off their knowledge that ther=
e are
> > > flaws. And I doubt the developers of the products do not know about =
the
> > > flaws. They just do not have the resources left to handle them, give=
n
> > > resources are limited.
> > =


> > My personal hope would be that some solutions could be discussed, e.g.=
 on
> > how to get more developers, if some parts should be dropped / rewritte=
n
> > instead of fixed etc.
> =


> Incidentally it's been the top discussion topics for the past few KDEPIM
> sprints. And also during BoFs at Akademy. I even think there's been
> discussions about that on the pim list and IRC channels.

And I think the PIM team did a lot of good work in this direction, there i=
s
documentation on how to build the PIM libs and apps, a big list of junior
jobs with that in my experience get active mentoring when someone wants to
claim one of them.

Could the PIM team make the whole onboarding process easier? Probably but =
it
would also impact the limited time the PIM devs have to work on the PIM ap=
ps.
But in my opinion that makes it very hard to get more devs working on the =
PIM
apps is that this is a complex system and that it is not the cool new tech=
 but
instead, deals with tons of legacy systems. If someone wants to help the P=
IM team,
I would recommend taking one of the junior jobs or updating the documentat=
ion
related to PIM on the wikis.

If I remember correctly I got my KDE developer account with the support of
Laurent after completing one of the Junior Job, so merci beaucoup Laurent =
and
the rest of the team for making me discover the KDE community.

Cheers,
Carl
> =


> Regards.
> =


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> Kevin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net


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