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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: The chat situation
From:       Ilmari Lauhakangas <ilmari.lauhakangas () libreoffice ! org>
Date:       2020-06-11 13:18:33
Message-ID: f6f8b6f3-e137-0c4c-99cb-02beb1f08be4 () libreoffice ! org
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Christian Loosli kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 15.25:
> And while IRC is improving  (and you are very welcome to participate e.g. in
> #ircv3 or #freenode-dev on freenode) two of the main pain points people
> mention   (lack of an endless scrollback / offline history, uploading media
> directly) are unlikely to fully happen on freenode / IRC, due to both
> technical and privacy / legal reasons. There is very likely to be (offline)
> backlog, but it will be time-limited due to the above constraints. Not having
> these constraints means someone else (neither freenode nor probably KDE) has
> both the storage and the legal willingness to store that data, with all
> implications this brings (DSVGO, security and privacy, ...)
> These are usually profit oriented companies, and having to rely on these
> brings up some new issues.

I'm not sure an endless scrollback is a dealbreaker. I've noticed folks 
in Telegram talking about cleanup bots that regularly delete the history 
due to whatever privacy concerns. But in general, sure, people want 
hosting & backups & everything for free and top notch customer support :)

Ilmari
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