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Subject: Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE
From: Philippe Cloutier <chealer () gmail ! com>
Date: 2019-12-16 4:32:43
Message-ID: 1eacffef-6e45-a653-cdeb-efc44e3e78fe () gmail ! com
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Hi Martin,
Le 2019-12-10 à 21:55, Martin Klapetek a écrit :
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Philippe Cloutier <chealer@gmail.com
> <mailto:chealer@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Le 2019-12-05 à 10:45, Nate Graham a écrit :
> >
> >
> > On 12/5/19 8:01 AM, Dominik Haumann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Eike Hein <hein@kde.org
> <mailto:hein@kde.org>> wrote:
> >>> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem
> that
> >>> doesn't currently exist.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >
> > +2, let's propose fixing the problem when there actually is a
> problem,
> > not when we suspect that there might at some future point be a
> problem
> > if people don't behave well.
>
>
> I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the
> moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not
> interested in it starts reading.
>
>
> But how is that problem of the Planet?
Who claimed it was?
> If the reader decides to
> read something, then the reader can't blame the medium for giving
> them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to readers to decide
> whether they want to read something or not. The choice is theirs already.
It may be easier for you to recognize it as a Planet problem to think
about the opposite effect: people not reading Planet because they choose
to invest their time elsewhere.
By the way, I was once a Planet KDE reader, though if I remember
correctly, I stopped reading when I stopped using Akregator, not because
I found the signal-to-noise ratio insufficient.
But denying the problem or blaming it on others won't help. Making the
existing compromise discoverable is constructive. We can go further
identifying and implementing actual solutions.
>
> [...]
> Cheers
> --
> Martin Klapetek
--
Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com
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<p>Hi Martin,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2019-12-10 à 21:55, Martin Klapetek
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Philippe Cloutier
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moz-do-not-send="true">chealer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Le 2019-12-05 à 10:45,
Nate Graham a écrit :<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 12/5/19 8:01 AM, Dominik Haumann wrote:<br>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Eike Hein <<a
href="mailto:hein@kde.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">hein@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> But they don't, so your calculation is about
solving a problem that <br>
>>> doesn't currently exist.<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
><br>
> +2, let's propose fixing the problem when there
actually is a problem, <br>
> not when we suspect that there might at some future
point be a problem <br>
> if people don't behave well.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts
from the <br>
moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is
not <br>
interested in it starts reading.<br>
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<div>But how is that problem of the Planet?</div>
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<p><br>
</p>
<p>Who claimed it was?</p>
<p><br>
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cite="mid:CAPLgePp1yEk0RHqeCzQqK0SVMttSg6k5UP55YH-q=KvSGQf2Hw@mail.gmail.com">
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<div> If the reader decides to</div>
<div>read something, then the reader can't blame the medium
for giving</div>
<div>them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to
readers to decide</div>
<div>whether they want to read something or not. The choice is
theirs already.</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>It may be easier for you to recognize it as a Planet problem to
think about the opposite effect: people not reading Planet because
they choose to invest their time elsewhere.<br>
By the way, I was once a Planet KDE reader, though if I remember
correctly, I stopped reading when I stopped using Akregator, not
because I found the signal-to-noise ratio insufficient.<br>
</p>
<p>But denying the problem or blaming it on others won't help.
Making the existing compromise discoverable is constructive. We
can go further identifying and implementing actual solutions.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAPLgePp1yEk0RHqeCzQqK0SVMttSg6k5UP55YH-q=KvSGQf2Hw@mail.gmail.com">
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<div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">--</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Martin
Klapetek</span></div>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Philippe Cloutier
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