Let me try one more time:

- We discussed this before.
- We came up with consensus on a rules compromise.
- We're discussing it again.
- You need to make a strong case why circumstances are different and the outcome of this conversation should be different from the established consensus.
- So far you're just repeating arguments.
- None of the arguments are in reference to the documented rules (even though the filter thing, which would require categorization by authors, could be written in such a way).

Consensus exists and is documented so we don't repeat debates from square one every time. Doing so anyway just because you don't agree with your peers is disrespecting others' time and not behavior appropriate for the community list, where we get *together* instead of running our own show.

This is particular so because this debate does happen in context of a particular blog post and individuals in a community deserve protection from mobs.


Cheers,
Eike

On December 5, 2019 1:47:16 PM GMT+01:00, Laszlo Papp <lpapp@kde.org> wrote:
No, one particular party's political propaganda (repeatedly) exceeds getting to know someone in KDE in my opinion.

Well, with that, if a KDE person does porn, or something else that is equally extreme, that could also be getting to know the person behind KDE.

I think drawing a false overarching conclusion is wrong. I am calling particularly out on Brexit (and maybe political) propaganda. I am personally not against reading a cycling trip in Europe (just an example from the past) which is not so divisive as politics and Brexit in particular.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:36 PM Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> wrote:
If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a problem we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a community we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality from an occasional post. Let's have that trust.

But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical you've laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus we already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like having the Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a news feed, it's a community aggregator.

Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog post is not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up with something.


Cheers,
Eike



On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch> wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that doesn't
currently exist.

I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, because 
whenever people will at political stuff, it will be  "but the other person was 
allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness. 

Cheers,
Eike

Kind regards, 

Christian 
 
On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch> 
wrote:
For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on planet
would
post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would be
simply
overcrowded with it.

Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a
filter for
non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, well,
KDE,
could filter all that stuff out.

Kind regards,

Christian

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell:
Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about

themselves

as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE
significantly which is why I include it here.  The idea that talking

about

politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one

reason why

the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion
currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion

blogs.

If you don’t want to read it then don’t read it.

The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog

should be

about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects

are also

encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the

developers

behind KDE."  I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that rule.

Jonathan

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch>

wrote:
Dear Community,

I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same blog,

but I

can't
find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums or

chat:
currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting for a
specific
political party. I understand that in these times there are many

countries

with heated and important political debates, and some very

important

global
topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news site.
Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a political

subject

that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be yet
another
political news/opinions feed.

If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read about

KDE, I

go to
planet.kde.org.

Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose

which of

your
blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are very

important

to
you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please keep

the

planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess where

it's

hard to
find the content people actually go there for.

Thanks and kind regards,

Christian





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