--000000000000e54f540598f454a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, one particular party's political propaganda (repeatedly) exceeds getting to know someone in KDE in my opinion. Well, with that, if a KDE person does porn, or something else that is equally extreme, that could also be getting to know the person behind KDE. I think drawing a false overarching conclusion is wrong. I am calling particularly out on Brexit (and maybe political) propaganda. I am personally not against reading a cycling trip in Europe (just an example from the past) which is not so divisive as politics and Brexit in particular. On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:36 PM Eike Hein wrote: > If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a > problem we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a > community we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality > from an occasional post. Let's have that trust. > > But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical you'v= e > laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is > different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus we > already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like having th= e > Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of > losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a news > feed, it's a community aggregator. > > Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog post > is not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up > with something. > > > Cheers, > Eike > > > > On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli < > kde@fuchsnet.ch> wrote: >> >> Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein: >> >>> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that doe= sn't >>> currently exist. >>> >> >> I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, becaus= e >> whenever people will at political stuff, it will be "but the other pers= on was >> allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness. >> >> Cheers, >>> Eike >>> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Christian >> >> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli >>> >> wrote: >> >>> For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on planet >>>> would >>>> post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would be >>>> simply >>>> overcrowded with it. >>>> >>>> Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a >>>> filter for >>>> non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, well= , >>>> KDE, >>>> could filter all that stuff out. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell= : >>>> >>>>> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about >>>>> >>>> >>>> themselves >>>> >>>> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE >>>>> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that talking >>>>> >>>> >>>> about >>>> >>>> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one >>>>> >>>> >>>> reason why >>>> >>>> the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion >>>>> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion >>>>> >>>> >>>> blogs. >>>> >>>> If you don=E2=80=99t want to read it then don=E2=80=99t read it. >>>>> >>>>> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog >>>>> >>>> >>>> should be >>>> >>>> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects >>>>> >>>> >>>> are also >>>> >>>> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the >>>>> >>>> >>>> developers >>>> >>>> behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that rule. >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli >>>>> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Community, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same blog, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I >>>> >>>> can't >>>>>> find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums or >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> chat: >>>> >>>>> currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting for a >>>>>> specific >>>>>> political party. I understand that in these times there are many >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> countries >>>> >>>> with heated and important political debates, and some very >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> important >>>> >>>> global >>>>>> topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news site. >>>>>> Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a political >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> subject >>>> >>>> that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be yet >>>>>> another >>>>>> political news/opinions feed. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read about >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> KDE, I >>>> >>>> go to >>>>>> planet.kde.org. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which of >>>> >>>> your >>>>>> blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are very >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> important >>>> >>>> to >>>>>> you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please keep >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess where >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it's >>>> >>>> hard to >>>>>> find the content people actually go there for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > --000000000000e54f540598f454a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, one particular party's political propaganda (repea= tedly) exceeds getting to know someone in KDE in my opinion.

Well, with that, if a KDE person does porn, or something else that= is equally extreme, that could also be getting to know the person behind K= DE.

I think drawing a false=C2=A0overarching concl= usion is wrong. I am calling particularly out on Brexit (and maybe politic= al) propaganda. I am personally not against reading a cycling trip in Europ= e (just an example from the past) which is not so divisive as politics and = Brexit in particular.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:36 PM Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> wrote:
If and when the Planet becom= es majority political content, that's a problem we can acknowledge and = deal with at that time I would say. As a community we're smart enough t= o understand that it's a different reality from an occasional post. Let= 's have that trust.

But let me say it again: We discussed this b= efore. The hypothetical you've laid out is not a new one. You're no= t explaining how the situation is different now from back then and why we n= eed to review the consensus we already had achieved, which was informed by = other thoughts like having the Planet be a place where we can get to know e= ach other and the cost of losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corp= orate outlet or a news feed, it's a community aggregator.

Starti= ng a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog post is n= ot meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up wi= th something.


Cheers,
Eike



On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch> wr= ote:
Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
But they don't, so your=
 calculation is about solving a problem that doesn't
currently exist=
.

I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a sli= ppery slope, because
whenever people will at political stuff, it will b= e "but the other person was
allowed, too!", so in my opinion= it's a matter of fairness.

Cheers,
Eike

Kind regards,

Ch= ristian

On Decem= ber 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch>
w= rote:
For me it's a rather simple calculati= on: if every contributor on planet
would
post as many articles on pol= itics as e.g. you do, the planet would be
simply
overcrowded with it.=

Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a=
filter for
non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to rea= d about, well,
KDE,
could filter all that stuff out.

Kind rega= rds,

Christian

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET = schrieb Jonathan Riddell:
Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about

themselves

as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE
s= ignificantly which is why I include it here. The idea that talking

about

= politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one

reason why

If y= ou don=E2=80=99t want to read it then don=E2=80=99t read it.

The rul= e we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog

should be

= about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects

are also

behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that r= ule.

Jonathan

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli &= lt;kde@fuchsnet.ch= >

wrote:
Dear Community,<= br>
I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same blo= g,

but I

can= 't
find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums or=

chat:
currently= the top blog post on p= lanet.kde.org is about voting for a
specific
political party. I u= nderstand that in these times there are many
<= br>countries

with heated and important politi= cal debates, and some very

important
global
topics as well. However, these already o= ccupy all the news site.
Now if every blog appearing on the planet would= target a political

subject

that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be yet
another<= br>political news/opinions feed.

If I want politics, I go to one of = these. If I want to read about

KDE, I
<= br>
go to
planet.kde.org.

Please dear bloggers: there are cate= gories, and you can choose

which of
your
blogs do show up on the planet. I know that= some topics are very

important

to
you and obviously you are free to blog about them= , but please keep

the

planet.kde.or= g feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess where

it's

hard to
find = the content people actually go there for.

Thanks and kind regards,
Christian

=



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