From kde-community Thu Dec 05 12:39:57 2019 From: Christian Loosli Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 12:39:57 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed Message-Id: <2270089.u1YFu1RnFG () minixfox> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=157554967831834 Kindly don't throw in false accusations, I don't dislike that particular bl= og=20 post at all (probably it's even mostly my position), I dislike in general t= hat=20 things get more and more political, so you it's getting really hard to find= =20 projects and places where you don't have to deal with $topic (insert=20 controversial stuff like Brexit, Bolsonaro, Trump, Fidesz, ... I'm sure eve= ry=20 country and region has its fair share) because you originally came to these= =20 places for something other than politics.=20 As the bar has a different height for different people, I already made a=20 suggestion: simply create a category for it and allow to filter, as we alre= ady=20 allow to filter by language.=20 Kind regards,=20 Christian=20 Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:36:36 CET schrieb Eike Hein: > If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a probl= em > we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a community > we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality from an > occasional post. Let's have that trust. >=20 > But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical you've > laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is > different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus we > already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like having the > Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of > losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a news > feed, it's a community aggregator. >=20 > Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog post = is > not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up with > something. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Eike >=20 > On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli =20 wrote: > >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein: > >> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that > > > >doesn't > > > >> currently exist. > > > >I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, > >because > >whenever people will at political stuff, it will be "but the other > >person was > >allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness. > > > >> Cheers, > >> Eike > > > >Kind regards, > > > >Christian > > > >> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli > > > > > > > >wrote: > >> >For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on > > > >planet > > > >> >would > >> >post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would > > > >be > > > >> >simply > >> >overcrowded with it. > >> > > >> >Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a > >> >filter for > >> >non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, > > > >well, > > > >> >KDE, > >> >could filter all that stuff out. > >> > > >> >Kind regards, > >> > > >> >Christian > >> > > >> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan > > > >Riddell: > >> >> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about > >> > > >> >themselves > >> > > >> >> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE > >> >> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that > > > >talking > > > >> >about > >> > > >> >> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one > >> > > >> >reason why > >> > > >> >> the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion > >> >> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion > >> > > >> >blogs. > >> > > >> >> If you don=E2=80=99t want to read it then don=E2=80=99t read it. > >> >>=20 > >> >> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog > >> > > >> >should be > >> > > >> >> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects > >> > > >> >are also > >> > > >> >> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the > >> > > >> >developers > >> > > >> >> behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that > > > >rule. > > > >> >> Jonathan > >> >>=20 > >> >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli > >> > > >> >wrote: > >> >> > Dear Community, > >> >> >=20 > >> >> > I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same > > > >blog, > > > >> >but I > >> > > >> >> > can't > >> >> > find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums > > > >or > > > >> >chat: > >> >> > currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting > > > >for a > > > >> >> > specific > >> >> > political party. I understand that in these times there are many > >> > > >> >countries > >> > > >> >> > with heated and important political debates, and some very > >> > > >> >important > >> > > >> >> > global > >> >> > topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news site. > >> >> > Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a > > > >political > > > >> >subject > >> > > >> >> > that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be > > > >yet > > > >> >> > another > >> >> > political news/opinions feed. > >> >> >=20 > >> >> > If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read > > > >about > > > >> >KDE, I > >> > > >> >> > go to > >> >> > planet.kde.org. > >> >> >=20 > >> >> > Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose > >> > > >> >which of > >> > > >> >> > your > >> >> > blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are very > >> > > >> >important > >> > > >> >> > to > >> >> > you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please > > > >keep > > > >> >the > >> > > >> >> > planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess > > > >where > > > >> >it's > >> > > >> >> > hard to > >> >> > find the content people actually go there for. > >> >> >=20 > >> >> > Thanks and kind regards, > >> >> >=20 > >> >> > Christian