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Subject: Re: Thank you! (was: Re: Reducing the load on Sysadmin)
From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman () gmail ! com>
Date: 2019-11-15 18:59:03
Message-ID: CACpu025HBgy=_s6kjCimdfX_YJJd-6Fn2hzZxFxL8T4ub_WBaw () mail ! gmail ! com
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Amen to that! Sysadmin have always supported us (Student Programs,
Community Working Group) in when we've asked and even before we ask. :-)
Thank you.
Valorie
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:28 AM Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
wrote:
> Dear Ben, dear admins for KDE infrastructure,
>
> Ben Cooksley - 09.11.19, 00:49:49 CET:
> > One of the things that was prepared as a result of the Sysadmin BoF at
> > Akademy was a list of systems and services which we look after and
> > provide to the community.
> >
> > Whilst individually all of the services seem fairly reasonable and
> > maintainable, the cumulative number of them has created a situation
> > where they limit our ability to reasonably maintain our services as a
> > collective whole.
>
> I followed the discussion followed by this and your other mails about
> that topic. And I am completely missing a very important thing in there:
>
> *Thank you*!
>
> *Thank you big time* to you and the other admins for all the work you do
> to keep KDE infrastructure running smoothly.
>
> Your work often is a lot less visible than the next shiny feature inside
> of Plasma or an application. It often happens in the background and may
> not be always thanked for at all, just cause no one notices to what
> extent it is your work that keeps all the services we take for granted
> running so smoothly as I do. I know how it can feel as I did quite some
> of similar work myself for some time.
>
> On top of that you and other admins responded to some requests of mine
> often quite quickly and even when it was just about re-open and fill a
> mailing list archive for kdepim / kdepim-users on own KDE's own
> infrastructure or some spam here and there. You did that on top of all
> the other work you have.
>
> So again, so that it really sinks in:
>
> *Thank you*
>
>
> In addition to that I ask everyone who responds to the more detailed
> mails to consider whether your answer will mostly mean even more work
> for the admins or whether it would actually help to reduce some of the
> workload. Please think a moment or two how you can make is easier for
> the admins to ease reduce their workload instead of adding even more
> work on top of it.
>
> I considered to offer some of my time to KDE admin work some times ago,
> but so far did not do that step out of the fear that I would easily be
> swamped by work then while leading an already very busy life and
> struggling to achieve some of my most important goals. And knowing how
> challenging it can be for me to say "no"… I rather did not offer help,
> even tough I would consider myself qualified enough for this kind of
> work, beyond a little collecting of some mails into an archive so far or
> so.
>
> I see your mail as a call for help, a call to have your workload eased a
> bit, Ben. I thought you would only be writing this in case you struggle
> with the current workload. And I can easily imagine that you do.
>
> All I ask everyone for is some respect for that, some respect for the
> often unseen work you admins do.
>
> So again:
>
> *Thank you!*
>
> I appreciate your work. Big time.
>
> Best,
> --
> Martin
>
>
>
--
http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her
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<div dir="ltr">Amen to that! Sysadmin have always supported us (Student Programs, \
Community Working Group) in when we've asked and even before we ask. \
:-)<div><br></div><div>Thank \
you.</div><div><br></div><div>Valorie</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:28 AM Martin Steigerwald \
<<a href="mailto:martin@lichtvoll.de">martin@lichtvoll.de</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Ben, dear admins \
for KDE infrastructure,<br> <br>
Ben Cooksley - 09.11.19, 00:49:49 CET:<br>
> One of the things that was prepared as a result of the Sysadmin BoF at<br>
> Akademy was a list of systems and services which we look after and<br>
> provide to the community.<br>
> <br>
> Whilst individually all of the services seem fairly reasonable and<br>
> maintainable, the cumulative number of them has created a situation<br>
> where they limit our ability to reasonably maintain our services as a<br>
> collective whole.<br>
<br>
I followed the discussion followed by this and your other mails about <br>
that topic. And I am completely missing a very important thing in there:<br>
<br>
*Thank you*!<br>
<br>
*Thank you big time* to you and the other admins for all the work you do <br>
to keep KDE infrastructure running smoothly.<br>
<br>
Your work often is a lot less visible than the next shiny feature inside <br>
of Plasma or an application. It often happens in the background and may <br>
not be always thanked for at all, just cause no one notices to what <br>
extent it is your work that keeps all the services we take for granted <br>
running so smoothly as I do. I know how it can feel as I did quite some <br>
of similar work myself for some time.<br>
<br>
On top of that you and other admins responded to some requests of mine <br>
often quite quickly and even when it was just about re-open and fill a <br>
mailing list archive for kdepim / kdepim-users on own KDE's own <br>
infrastructure or some spam here and there. You did that on top of all <br>
the other work you have.<br>
<br>
So again, so that it really sinks in:<br>
<br>
*Thank you*<br>
<br>
<br>
In addition to that I ask everyone who responds to the more detailed <br>
mails to consider whether your answer will mostly mean even more work <br>
for the admins or whether it would actually help to reduce some of the <br>
workload. Please think a moment or two how you can make is easier for <br>
the admins to ease reduce their workload instead of adding even more <br>
work on top of it.<br>
<br>
I considered to offer some of my time to KDE admin work some times ago, <br>
but so far did not do that step out of the fear that I would easily be <br>
swamped by work then while leading an already very busy life and <br>
struggling to achieve some of my most important goals. And knowing how <br>
challenging it can be for me to say "no"… I rather did not offer help, \
<br> even tough I would consider myself qualified enough for this kind of <br>
work, beyond a little collecting of some mails into an archive so far or <br>
so.<br>
<br>
I see your mail as a call for help, a call to have your workload eased a <br>
bit, Ben. I thought you would only be writing this in case you struggle <br>
with the current workload. And I can easily imagine that you do.<br>
<br>
All I ask everyone for is some respect for that, some respect for the <br>
often unseen work you admins do.<br>
<br>
So again:<br>
<br>
*Thank you!*<br>
<br>
I appreciate your work. Big time.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
-- <br>
Martin<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><a href="http://about.me/valoriez" \
target="_blank">http://about.me/valoriez</a> - pronouns: \
she/her<br><br><br></div></div></div>
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