--0000000000005b59980592e5110e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:31 AM Christian Loosli wrote: > Hi all, > > I mostly agree with Agustin and Jens: > > I think that people should be elected into positions based on their > suitability for that position, which means that things like sex, gender, > race, > cultural background, sexual orientation etc. pp. should neither be an > advantage nor a disadvantage. Otherwise people with backward mindsets > thinking > that "$xy can't do $z" will go "Oh, you only got into position $z due to > being $xy", which doesn't help. Also worst case, but exaggerated, if > indeed > people are picked not based on suitability, you could e.g. pick someone > for a > communicative job that is rather introvert or someone for a finance job > that > doesn't like numbers, then people with the above mentioned mindset would > feel > that their odd views are even more confirmed, that $xy can't do $z. > > From a personal point of view, I e.g. do not think that someone from the > LGBTQ+ spectrum would represent me any better on a board. What is > important to > me is that I feel welcome and an not harassed / discriminated due to > that. > > And that is what we need to achieve: our community needs to be inclusive > and > welcoming, so we shall not tolerate discrimination based on sex, gender, > cultural heritage etc. pp. > When we have a diverse base, chances are obviously high that people > elected > into positions have all kind of different backgrounds. > > And that is what I think we need to recommend to other communities, so > that > FOSS as a whole is a place where everybody feels welcome and nobody > suffers > from discrimination based on who they are. On the other hand, I do not > feel > that we are in the position to make strong pushs or even build up public > pressure when it comes to elections and choices of other organizations. > I don't know how FSF elections internally work, but if we map it to KDE, > I'd > see it as very awkward if an external organization would interfere with > our > board elections and say "You should pick candidate $x or you must add > candidates $y and $z". > > tl;dr: I think we need to ensure that both we and FOSS has a diverse, > broad > base and work on issues preventing that, not interfering with other > organizations elections and processes. > > Kind regards, > > Christian > +1 --0000000000005b59980592e5110e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:31 AM Chris= tian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch> = wrote:
Hi all, <= br>
I mostly agree with Agustin and Jens:

I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
suitability for that position, which means that things like sex, gender, ra= ce,
cultural background, sexual orientation etc. pp. should neither be an
advantage nor a disadvantage. Otherwise people with backward mindsets think= ing
that "$xy can't do $z" will go=C2=A0 "Oh, you only got i= nto position $z due to
being $xy", which doesn't help. Also worst case, but exaggerated, = if indeed
people are picked not based on suitability, you could e.g. pick someone for= a
communicative job that is rather introvert or someone for a finance job tha= t
doesn't like numbers, then people with the above mentioned mindset woul= d feel
that their odd views are even more confirmed, that $xy can't do $z.
From a personal point of view, I e.g. do not think that someone from the LGBTQ+ spectrum would represent me any better on a board. What is important= to
me is that I feel welcome and an not harassed=C2=A0 / discriminated due to = that.

And that is what we need to achieve: our community needs to be inclusive an= d
welcoming, so we shall not tolerate discrimination based on sex, gender, cultural heritage etc. pp.
When we have a diverse base, chances are obviously high that people elected=
into positions have all kind of different backgrounds.

And that is what I think we need to recommend to other communities, so that=
FOSS as a whole is a place where everybody feels welcome and nobody suffers=
from discrimination based on who they are.=C2=A0 On the other hand, I do no= t feel
that we are in the position to make strong pushs or even build up public pressure when it comes to elections and choices of other organizations. I don't know how FSF elections internally work, but if we map it to KDE= , I'd
see it as very awkward if an external organization would interfere with our=
board elections and say=C2=A0 "You should pick candidate $x or you mus= t add
candidates $y and $z".

tl;dr: I think we need to ensure that both we and FOSS has a diverse, broad=
base and work on issues preventing that, not interfering with other
organizations elections and processes.

Kind regards,

Christian

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