--000000000000aa66470592e2a38e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand RH. The gamemis political now, is a chance to make FSF a real org to match Linux Foundation power domination recently. They just can't speak directly about this, but use the nice inclusion topic, helping then to say the message without been heavy political sided. And i want raise a concern here as well. The current FSF VP, Alexandre Oliva, i know personally from long time. He is as extremist as RMS, but only in software territory, and seen like a current twitter post, it shows that is going down to the hill like RMS. https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1174410267972780033?s=3D21 So, we need carefully choose the words if we want to say a message. If we do want to support the new times, but avoid fall in the risk of having aoliva as a president and FSF will not change at all, can even been more dangerous. On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 08:34, Paul Adams wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 08:17 Agust=C3=ADn Benito, wrot= e: > >> we should support them, not tell them what to do. >> > > One of RMSs best-known transgressions took place on _our_ stage at Gran > Canaria. We did not exactly take much action at the time. > > If this community really cares about Free Software and building an > inclusive community we absolutely _must_ speak up in public. > > Augustin is right though. That message must be one of support for the FSF > and helping them build a better future for FS, not pressurising them over > things in the past. > >> --000000000000aa66470592e2a38e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I understand RH. The gamemis political = now, is a chance to make FSF a real org to match Linux Foundation power dom= ination recently. They just can't speak directly about this, but use th= e nice inclusion topic, helping then to say the message without been heavy = political sided.

And i= want raise a concern here as well.

The current FSF VP, Alexandre Oliva, i know personally from l= ong time. He is as extremist as RMS, but only in software territory, and se= en like a current twitter post, it shows that is going down to the hill lik= e RMS.

So, we need carefully choose the words if we want to say a messa= ge.=C2=A0

If we do wan= t to support the new times, but avoid fall in the risk of having aoliva as = a president and FSF will not change at all, can even been more dangerous.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 08:34, Paul Adams <paul.adams@kde.org> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 08:17 Agust= =C3=ADn Benito, <toscalix@gmail.com> wrote:
we should support th= em, not tell them what to do.

One of RMSs best-known transgressions= took place on _our_ stage at Gran Canaria. We did not exactly take much ac= tion at the time.

If thi= s community really cares about Free Software and building an inclusive comm= unity we absolutely _must_ speak up in public.

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Augustin is right though. That message must be one o= f support for the FSF and helping them build a better future for FS, not pr= essurising them over things in the past.
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