Hello Jonathan,

> The workboard item is https://phabricator.kde.org/T10477,  it wasn't
> tagged KDE promo, it wasn't sent to the dot-editors list

This is true. However, there were good reasons for keeping things under wraps:

Firstly nobody wanted it to pop up on some place like Reddit, have a bunch of
people cascade into the servers before they were ready, then moan on line how
KDE can't get anything right and "bring back KDE 3!". Safeguarding KDE's
reputation is one of Promo's prime directives.

So far, by the way, so good: no outlet and no social media platform has had
anything bad to say about the decision.

Getting back to being discrete until ready, the people of Matrix were
particularly and understandably nervous about this deployment. Apart from the
hit to their reputation a botched deployment would have had, they also have
patrons and a disastrous, unplanned and premature release could give their
sponsors second thoughts about supporting them again.

> and I wasn't pinged

As for this... well, as we are being frank here: You are not the most discrete
of people and not anybody's first choice for keeping things quiet.

Don't get me wrong, being forthcoming is a much appreciated quality in most
situations involving Free Software. Your no-nonsense and upfront personality
has made you a beacon of transparency, not only for KDE, but in FLOSS in
general.

But those particular personality traits would've not helped with this task,
unfortunately.

> (I'm the only active volunteer Dot editor).

I'm not sure this is true, but if it is, it is probably a great time to ask
for more volunteers.

Hello Community Mailing List readers! Posts for Dot editors are now open!
Requirements are good language skills. Knowledge of editing and copywriting a
plus. Drop buy the Promo mailing list, IRC or Matrix room and we'll get you
sorted.

> I've tried to discuss problems in promo with the e.V. board and CWG in
> the past when long term contributors have left, when the team was
> changed from a community team to a closed access team,

This is, to put it mildly, a misstatement. Anyone is free to join the Promo
working group and everybody there helps decide what Promo does and shapes the
strategy we follow.

> when our
> mailing lists were micro managed or when I was insulted for organising
> a conference stall

Are you sure? What did they say? What were the circumstances? I find it hard to
believe it was gratuitous. Something like "Don't help us, you moron!" sounds
way out of character of everybody I know in Promo. I feel more context is
needed.

But, before you answer, is it relevant to this discussion? Is it relevant to
the discussion about Promo? If not, maybe start another thread or take it to
CWG and see if they can solve it.

> but I've only been dismissed or ignored

Anything but, I'd say. When you wanted a policy for accessing social media,
Promo dropped everything to make it happen. You have been active and
contributing to Promo ever since (something which is much appreciated, by the
way) and everything you have suggested has been taken into consideration

... Unless I have missed something. If this is the case, please tell what it
is and we'll give it a second go.

> and the
> community at large seems happy for that to happen so I can't offer any
> assurances of changes.

Maybe that is because the community at large sees things differently from you.
Maybe you are confabulating several non-related things which don't all reflect
reality. Maybe if you took a step back and tried to see things from other
people's points of view, you may see why sometimes not everything can be
carried out exactly as you would wish. Making concessions is part of working
within a community. Not everything important for you is important for
everybody else.

Cheers

Paul
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