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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: Discourse
From:       Sivan Greenberg <sivan () omniqueue ! com>
Date:       2018-10-30 0:29:39
Message-ID: CAJNcf-akF=duyr6aSnq--BP0nqTRU4F8Z0To9mEti5H+46M8=g () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 0:28 Jonathan Riddell <jr@jriddell.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca Beltrame <lbeltrame@kde.org> wrote:
> > - As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker.
> >   This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach
>
> Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to deploy.  You can log
> into the running container fine and twiddle as needed.


> +1


> > - It uses (used to use?) PostgreSQL as database, for which Sysadmin
> >   isn't really keen on using unless absolutely necessary
>
> Shrug, personal taste.


+1


>
> > - The UX is not as best as it looks, hijacks stuff like the back button
> >   on the browser and what not
>
> Shrug, personal taste.
>
> > - The "app" on mobile is a joke, basically a web view of the mobile page
>
> I'm told the app works fine web view or no, doesn't seem a reason to
> dislike an app.


+1 also common with content viewing mobile apps.


>
> > > I think KDE should consider moving away from mailman and onto
> >
> > Does Discourse have a mail interface to avoid breaking user workflows?
> > How should a migration be handled? Don't forget we'll lose distributed
> > archiving of the mailing lists as well (very useful).
>
> It certainly notifies by e-mail, I've not yet worked out how it treats
> incoming e-mail.


I do wish to keep the mailing list interface as I find it hard (personal
taste) to work out too much "GUI" and having it all in my gmail boxes is
nice.  Surely it supports a sorts of mailing list interface ?

>
>
> It has import filters for mailman and maybe phpBB but also if we ever
> got to a point where we dropped the current systems entirely they can
> just be turned read only and continue to be used as archives.
>
> > Also, don't forget that "should", to quote a seminar I was at recently,
> > should become "I/we/they will". If no one is willing to put support
> > with the (aged! I'm not saying it's perfect) forum infrastructure why
> > do you think one would put up with the new
>
-- 
-Sivan

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<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 \
at 0:28 Jonathan Riddell &lt;<a href="mailto:jr@jriddell.org">jr@jriddell.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca \
Beltrame &lt;<a href="mailto:lbeltrame@kde.org" \
target="_blank">lbeltrame@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; - As far as I remember, \
they *only* supported deployment with Docker.<br> &gt;     This is is IMO a terrible \
and black-magic approach<br> <br>
Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to deploy.   You can log<br>
into the running container fine and twiddle as needed.</blockquote><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> </blockquote><div dir="auto">+1</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> &gt; - It uses (used to use?) \
PostgreSQL as database, for which Sysadmin<br> &gt;     isn&#39;t really keen on \
using unless absolutely necessary<br> <br>
Shrug, personal taste.</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">+1</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br>
&gt; - The UX is not as best as it looks, hijacks stuff like the back button<br>
&gt;     on the browser and what not<br>
<br>
Shrug, personal taste.<br>
<br>
&gt; - The &quot;app&quot; on mobile is a joke, basically a web view of the mobile \
page<br> <br>
I&#39;m told the app works fine web view or no, doesn&#39;t seem a reason to<br>
dislike an app.</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">+1 also common \
with content viewing mobile apps.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br>
&gt; &gt; I think KDE should consider moving away from mailman and onto<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does Discourse have a mail interface to avoid breaking user workflows?<br>
&gt; How should a migration be handled? Don&#39;t forget we&#39;ll lose \
distributed<br> &gt; archiving of the mailing lists as well (very useful).<br>
<br>
It certainly notifies by e-mail, I&#39;ve not yet worked out how it treats<br>
incoming e-mail.</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do wish to \
keep the mailing list interface as I find it hard (personal taste) to work out too \
much "GUI" and having it all in my gmail boxes is nice.   Surely it supports a sorts \
of mailing list interface ?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br>
It has import filters for mailman and maybe phpBB but also if we ever<br>
got to a point where we dropped the current systems entirely they can<br>
just be turned read only and continue to be used as archives.<br>
<br>
&gt; Also, don&#39;t forget that &quot;should&quot;, to quote a seminar I was at \
recently,<br> &gt; should become &quot;I/we/they will&quot;. If no one is willing to \
put support<br> &gt; with the (aged! I&#39;m not saying it&#39;s perfect) forum \
infrastructure why<br> &gt; do you think one would put up with the new<br>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" \
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">-Sivan</div>



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