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Subject: Re: Nominate key KDE frameworks and packages for inclusion in the OIN Linux System Definition
From: Mirko Boehm <mirko () kde ! org>
Date: 2018-08-30 12:51:59
Message-ID: FA93A01F-4991-483B-82C0-A604C35D51BA () kde ! org
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Hi,
> On 30. Aug 2018, at 05:46, Adriaan de Groot <groot@kde.org> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:53:39 CEST Mirko Boehm wrote:
> > KDE software is covered in the definition, but not in the latest version.
> > KDE 3 and 4 packages are included.
>
> Does any mainstream distro still ship any KDE3 stuff? Does any mainstream
> distro still ship any KDE4 stuff? (FWIW, I've just added deprecation notices
> to all the KDE4 packages on FreeBSD, thinking we were the last to get rid of
> it).
Nothing ever gets removed from the LSD. I think we do have the latest KDE 3 package \
versions, but it would not hurt to have a look. Same for KDE 4.
> > I would like to see the KDE frameworks
> > and key shared libraries included. The system definition includes reusable
> > components, applications ("leafs" of the dependency tree) are usually not
> > included. The Linux System is updated every 18-24 months. We just finished
> > one round of updates, so now is a good time to think about nominating
> > updates to the latest versions of "legacy" KDE packages, and nominating new
> > packages for inclusion.
>
> Sure, I'd be up for that -- I see Cornelius is, too. We could try wrangling
> the frameworks in, as well as updating KDE4 bits if needed; 17.08.3 was the
> very last update of that stack, we could check if it's in the LSD.
Good to have you two on this.
Best,
Mirko.
--
Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V.
FSFE Team Germany
Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer
Request a meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm
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line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><div><br \
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30. Aug 2018, at 05:46, \
Adriaan de Groot <<a href="mailto:groot@kde.org" class="">groot@kde.org</a>> \
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 \
18:53:39 CEST Mirko Boehm wrote:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: \
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: \
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote \
type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: \
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; \
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">KDE software is \
covered in the definition, but not in the latest version.<br class="">KDE 3 and 4 \
packages are included.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br \
class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: \
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; \
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Does any mainstream distro still \
ship any KDE3 stuff? Does any mainstream<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, \
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">distro still ship any KDE4 stuff? \
(FWIW, I've just added deprecation notices<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, \
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">to all the KDE4 packages on \
FreeBSD, thinking we were the last to get rid of<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, \
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">it).</span><br style="caret-color: \
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Nothing ever gets removed from \
the LSD. I think we do have the latest KDE 3 package versions, but it would not hurt \
to have a look. Same for KDE 4.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" \
class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;" class="">I would like to see the KDE frameworks<br class="">and key shared \
libraries included. The system definition includes reusable<br class="">components, \
applications ("leafs" of the dependency tree) are usually not<br class="">included. \
The Linux System is updated every 18-24 months. We just finished<br class="">one \
round of updates, so now is a good time to think about nominating<br class="">updates \
to the latest versions of "legacy" KDE packages, and nominating new<br \
class="">packages for inclusion.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: \
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Sure, I'd be up for that -- I see \
Cornelius is, too. We could try wrangling<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, \
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">the frameworks in, as well as \
updating KDE4 bits if needed; 17.08.3 was the<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, \
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; \
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">very last update of that stack, we \
could check if it's in the LSD.</span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Good \
to have you two on this.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Best,</div><div><br \
class=""></div><div>Mirko.</div><div class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
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style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: \
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: \
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" \
class="">-- <br class=""></div><div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" \
class="">Mirko Boehm | <a href="mailto:mirko@kde.org" class="">mirko@kde.org</a> | \
KDE e.V.<br class="">FSFE Team Germany<br class="">Qt Certified Specialist and \
Trainer<br class="">Request a meeting: <a href="https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm" \
class="">https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm</a><br class=""></div></div></div> </div>
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