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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: Telemetry Policy
From:       Jaroslaw Staniek <staniek () kde ! org>
Date:       2017-08-24 15:19:45
Message-ID: CAOj7QQ0KEaBE65eN8EgnvNDc2D+4joxf5VTfDXVQvravcHe5cQ () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 24 August 2017 at 16:54, Nicolás Alvarez <nicolas.alvarez@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > El 24 ago 2017, a las 07:41, Jaroslaw Staniek <staniek@kde.org> escribió:
> > 
> > > On 24 August 2017 at 11:10, Adriaan de Groot <groot@kde.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Curiously, there's a lot of "telemetry policy" news items popping up this
> > > week, for instance:
> > > 
> > > Mozilla ponders making telemetry opt-out, 'cos hardly anyone opted in
> > > 
> > > (that's on the Register) and there were others. So it looks like communication
> > > -- what's the data for, why is it collected, and what can happen to it -- is
> > > key here.
> > > 
> > > [ade]
> > 
> > Speaking of that please let me play devil's advocate. In Europe,
> > especially Poland all web sites/web apps that collect cookies must
> > obtain permission to do that from the user. Interestingly there are
> > usually OK buttons only so the message is only an information.
> > Sometimes there is "Don't agree" button which is equal to close the
> > site. So telemetry-like behavior even lacks opt-out.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > I can imagine we would make our pages work without cookies and add
> > opt-in buttons to each main site.
> > 
> > Now KDE context since there's visible call to make privacy our pillar topic:
> > 1. Does www.kde.org for example use cookies?
> 
> Yes, and we show the comply-with-Europe-law banner letting the user know about \
> those cookies. We also follow the browser Do Not Track setting and we don't collect \
> statistics if that is set. 

To meet obligations of the European law it's enough. Obvious but for
the record: if we're discussing how much we would care about privacy
-- this is delegating the responsibility to 3rdparty software. Which
may or may not have this implemented or (most often) *has tracking set
as opt-out*. Mozilla, Apple, Google for example have. MS tried to be
the good boy [1]. We and GNOME are.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track#Internet_Explorer_10_default_setting_controversy


> --
> Nicolás
> KDE Sysadmin Team



-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

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