From kde-community Thu Aug 10 16:34:31 2017 From: Martin Klapetek Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:34:31 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: How about an inclusive "and" approach instead of fighting IRC versus something new? (was: Re: Co Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=150238292326905 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--94eb2c18699e29907c055668c726" --94eb2c18699e29907c055668c726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Martin Klapetek - 09.08.17, 16:12: > > > But KDE is not a tech startup. As people correctly wrote, KDE has a > very > > > long > > > history and contributors of all age. I'd rather be that than one of the > > > many > > > tech startups with a bunch of little to no experience but fancy new > chat > > > systems, to be honest. Do we really want and need to cater these > mystical > > > tweens so much? > > > > Yes. Old contributors will slowly fade away for various > > reasons, be it life, be it lack of energy, be it other commitments. > > Who's going to pick all those projects up after them? I'd like > > to think that young enthusiasts with lots of energy and potential, > > exactly what those heroes starting the original KDE were. > > And I think we should strive to attract younger talent that can > > be in it for the long run. > > Well, I wonder since reading several posts here about one thing: > > To from reading this post and other posts I got the impression that is > absolutely needs to be black or white: > > *Either* IRC and nothing else *or* something new and nothing else. > > Seriously? > > I mean: Seriously? > > > There has been almost completely unnoticed posts mentioning bridges. Is > none > of this bridges capable to work well enough for KDE community use cases? > > Why do you see the need to exclude either one of the groups? > As you're quoting my email - where are you reading this? That's not what I wrote at. all. I merely stated that we should cater to younger engineers. Not once I suggested and will not suggest to disregard the old timers. That was twisted in replies following my email. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek --94eb2c18699e29907c055668c726 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Mar= tin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
Martin Klapetek - 09.08.17, 16:12:
> > But KDE is not a tech startup. As people correctly wrote, KDE has= a very
> > long
> > history and contributors of all age. I'd rather be that than = one of the
> > many
> > tech startups with a bunch of little to no experience but fancy n= ew chat
> > systems, to be honest.=C2=A0 Do we really want and need to cater = these mystical
> > tweens so much?
>
> Yes. Old contributors will slowly fade away for various
> reasons, be it life, be it lack of energy, be it other commitments. > Who's going to pick all those projects up after them? I'd like=
> to think that young enthusiasts with lots of energy and potential,
> exactly what those heroes starting the original KDE were.
> And I think we should strive to attract younger talent that can
> be in it for the long run.

Well, I wonder since reading several posts here about one thing:

To from reading this post and other posts I got the impression that is
absolutely needs to be black or white:

*Either* IRC and nothing else *or* something new and nothing else.

Seriously?

I mean: Seriously?


There has been almost completely unnoticed posts mentioning bridges. Is non= e
of this bridges capable to work well enough for KDE community use cases?
Why do you see the need to exclude either one of the groups?

As you're quoting my email - where are you readin= g this?
That's not what I wrote at. all. I merely stated that= we should
cater to younger engineers. Not once I suggested and w= ill not
suggest to disregard the old timers. That was twisted in = replies
following my email.

Cheers
=
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Martin Klapetek
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