+1 for being nice. One thing I'd like to add is that while the Fedora and Ubuntu are not KDE projects (nor that they can be if we take the previous claims that they do not have the same goals as us), that does not mean that the project to provide KDE software for those distributions can not be a KDE project. Why would Neon be special? Neon did not strictly start as a part of KDE community (this was a reason mentioned why it is ok for Neon and KDE-FreeBSD). We voted on to allow it to be a KDE project - it already existed before that, albeit for a short time. From my point of view, denying this request to Kubuntu people would just be plain wrong - it is a distribution that is based on something that is not under KDE's control just like it is the case with Neon and KDE-FreeBSD. TL;DR While Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE are not KDE projects, that does not mean that the projects of making KDE-versions of popular distributions are not. Cheers, Ivan