--===============6228077341832254137== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f328aa7243305327913d4 --001a113f328aa7243305327913d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Ben Cooksley wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Riccardo Iaconelli > > wrote: > >> > >> On sabato 7 maggio 2016 18:23:10 CEST Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> > I wonder why nobody > >> > examined this POV before starting to shift to Telegram. In this regard > >> > Mattermost appears to make much more sense as we could run it on our > >> > own servers, if we really need a phone client. > >> > >> Speaking as maintainer of a project which heavily uses Telegram: it > allows > >> backlogging and it is usable from behind any connection. For me it is > >> impossible to connect to IRC from the University, the University campus > or > >> the > >> research labs. > > > > > > Why? > > Universities usually firewall their internet connections to permit > only port 80 and 443 outbound. > Sometimes you have to use an authenticated proxy to do that as well. > > If you're lucky some universities will allow port 22 (SSH) outbound. > > This makes IRC unavailable obviously, although tools such as Telegram, > Slack, etc. which all use https and websockets to function work > perfectly fine. > I am not sure that I can realise the obvious here. I had used IRC in such an environment for years. If I recall it correctly, all I needed was an interim box. In worst case, I am sure that this would not be a problem for the KDE infrastructure to help a few KDE contributors in that case out. If it was, we need to think about a solution for the community in my opinion. > > Regards, > Ben > > > > >> > >> > >> Bye, > >> -Riccardo > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kde-community mailing list > >> kde-community@kde.org > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kde-community mailing list > > kde-community@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > _______________________________________________ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > --001a113f328aa7243305327913d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley@kde.org&g= t; wrote:
On Tue,= May 10, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Laszlo Papp <= lpapp@kde.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Riccardo Iaconelli <riccardo@kde.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> On sabato 7 maggio 2016 18:23:10 CEST Myriam Schweingruber wrote:<= br> >> > I wonder why nobody
>> > examined this POV before starting to shift to Telegram. In th= is regard
>> > Mattermost appears to make much more sense as we could run it= on our
>> > own servers, if we really need a phone client.
>>
>> Speaking as maintainer of a project which heavily uses Telegram: i= t allows
>> backlogging and it is usable from behind any connection. For me it= is
>> impossible to connect to IRC from the University, the University c= ampus or
>> the
>> research labs.
>
>
> Why?

Universities usually firewall their internet connections to permit only port 80 and 443 outbound.
Sometimes you have to use an authenticated proxy to do that as well.

If you're lucky some universities will allow port 22 (SSH) outbound.
This makes IRC unavailable obviously, although tools such as Telegram,
Slack, etc. which all use https and websockets to function work
perfectly fine.

I am not sure that I ca= n realise the obvious here. I had used IRC in such an environment for years= . If I recall it correctly, all I needed was an interim box. In worst case,= I am sure that this would not be a problem for the KDE infrastructure to h= elp a few KDE contributors in that case out. If it was, we need to think ab= out a solution for the community in my opinion.
=C2=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Regards,
Ben

>
>>
>>
>> Bye,
>> -Riccardo
>>
>>
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