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Subject:    Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jos () owncloud ! com>
Date:       2016-02-27 0:01:59
Message-ID: 33875902.6L7Nsij1L1 () s9laptop ! jos
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On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:22:22 PM AMT Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> > Oooo, Steve! Thank you for capping off an excellent discussion.
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stephen Kelly <steveire@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think the form
> > > 
> > > "A world in which everyone has <foo> their digital life"
> > > 
> > > is fantastic!
> > > 
> > > It doesn't mention KDE. It doesn't have a 'subject' at all.
> > > It has a very-inclusive object: 'everyone'
> > > It is inspirational
> > > 
> > After reading all of the above, which put into words my inchaote
> > thoughts, I would like to offer the following version:
> 
> It seems your thoughts are not the same as my words at all :). Your 
> suggestion seems to be exactly the opposite of what I wrote in many ways. 
> 
> Maybe I don't understand what you mean or what you want to communicate with 
> that sentence.
> 
> > KDE: control your digital life
> 
> You dropped the reference to 'everyone'. You added a reference to KDE. You 
> dropped the 'a world in which' making it less inspirational. Altogether it 
> seems to me more like a marketing slogan.
> 
> Can you say why you made those changes?
> 
> Something I think you are right about is:
> 
> > Freedom, technology, software, privacy, all of that is IN there.
> 
> So for me, this is quite good:
> 
> "A world in which everyone has control in their digital life"
> 
> I think it is good for all of the same reasons in my previous email. It is 
> also more concise.

I think she got sidetracked by the search for a slogan - I had the same, really \
liking what she wrote, then reading your mail and realizing it was a slogan, not a \
vision...

"A world in which everyone has control over their digital life" (in -> over) seems a \
great vision.

To execute, we'd need to create software which is easy to use and stable (we target \
'everyone', after all), secure and giving you control over your privacy (duh) but \
typical KDE tendencies like making software flexible, powerful and configurable fit \
in this very well, too.

Of course, next KDE would have to define mission and strategy, in which more detailed \
things like "end user facing software", "cross-platform", "Qt" and more could or \
could not find a place.

To give a comparison, ownCloud's vision is something like (and I modified it to be in \
the same form):

"A world in which everybody has a safe place to store and manage their data".

Note that our slogan is: "A safe home for all your data"
with byline:
"Access & share your files, calendars, contacts, mail & more from any device, on your \
terms"

Note that ownCloud's vision is compatible with KDE's, just a bit less broad.

> Thanks,
> 
> Steve.
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