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Subject: Re: [kde-community] Windows licenses
From: Patrick von Reth <patrick () von-reth ! de>
Date: 2014-01-22 8:19:47
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Hi I really like the idea but keep in mind that keeping a kde setup up and running \
does take a lot of work, and an unlimited set of licences would not help us at all if \
no one manages the vms. In my experience it is no problem having mingw and msvc setup \
on one system, you probably don't want to compile with both all the time but the \
system will handle it quite fine, in in case of vms the io operations on the same \
hardware would stay the same. It still would be useful to have one server instance \
for mingw and one for msvc because then multiple people could work at the same time \
and as both setups are independent the amount of work to manage them is not \
increased.
For pacman: pacman is as far as I know only part of msys2 , and quite useful there to \
install dev tools etc, but it is of no use for us, as we don't want users to install \
msys to install kde, and we don't want to develop stuff inside of msys.
Cheers
Patrick
From: pgquiles@elpauer.org
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:37:54 +0100
To: kde-community@kde.org
Subject: Re: [kde-community] Windows licenses
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin@kde.org> wrote:
On Monday 20 January 2014 23:20:48 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone tried to contact Microsoft to get KDE included in their
> non-profit program?
>
> I got confirmation from Claudia the KDE eV does comply with the requisites
> for German organizations (attached are the terms)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/nonprofits/whos-el
> igible/
>
> This could give us licenses for Windows (desktop and server) and Visual
> Studio for free (and suually more software too). The Windows Server
> licenses could be used for Jenkins build machines.
Could this be used to provide a virtual machine (or a remote login server)
with all the Qt/KF5 build setup, so that devs not having Windows at all could
easily test their changes?
It depends on what version of Windows we would receive (assuming the optimistic case \
where we actually receive something, of course). E. g. Windows Server Datacenter \
version allows for unlimited Windows Server VMs. Windows Server Standard allows for \
only 2 Windows Server VMs. Windows Server Essentials no VMs. Windows 7/8/etc VMs are \
not allowed unless Software Assurance is included.
Let's see if we are accepted, then we will see what we can do with whatever we \
receive.
--
Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)
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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi I really like the idea but keep in \
mind that keeping a kde setup up and running does take a lot of work, and an \
unlimited set of licences would not help us at all if no one manages the vms.<BR>In \
my experience it is no problem having mingw and msvc setup on one system, you \
probably don't want to compile with both all the time but the system will handle it \
quite fine, in in case of vms the io operations on the same hardware would stay the \
same. <BR>It still would be useful to have one server instance for mingw and one for \
msvc because then multiple people could work at the same time and as both setups are \
independent the amount of work to manage them is not \
increased.<BR> <BR> <BR>For pacman: pacman is as far as I know only part of \
msys2 , and quite useful there to install dev tools etc, but it is of no use for us, \
as we don't want users to install msys to install kde, and we don't want to develop \
stuff inside of msys.<BR> <BR>Cheers<BR> <BR>Patrick<BR><br> <BR><div><hr \
id="stopSpelling">From: pgquiles@elpauer.org<br>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:37:54 \
+0100<br>To: kde-community@kde.org<br>Subject: Re: [kde-community] Windows \
licenses<br><br><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="ecxgmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Martin Gräßlin <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org" \
target="_blank">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: \
rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div \
class="ecxim">On Monday 20 January 2014 23:20:48 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:<br> > \
Hello,<br> ><br>
> Has anyone tried to contact Microsoft to get KDE included in their<br>
> non-profit program?<br>
><br>
> I got confirmation from Claudia the KDE eV does comply with the requisites<br>
> for German organizations (attached are the terms)<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/nonprofits/whos-el" \
target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/nonprofits/whos-el</a><br>
> igible/<br>
><br>
> This could give us licenses for Windows (desktop and server) and Visual<br>
> Studio for free (and suually more software too). The Windows Server<br>
> licenses could be used for Jenkins build machines.<br>
<br>
</div>Could this be used to provide a virtual machine (or a remote login server)<br>
with all the Qt/KF5 build setup, so that devs not having Windows at all could<br>
easily test their changes?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It depends on what version of Windows we would \
receive (assuming the optimistic case where we actually receive something, of \
course).</div><div><br></div><div>E. g. Windows Server Datacenter version allows for \
unlimited Windows Server VMs. Windows Server Standard allows for only 2 Windows \
Server VMs. Windows Server Essentials no VMs. Windows 7/8/etc VMs are not allowed \
unless Software Assurance is included.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Let's see if we are accepted, then we will see what we can do \
with whatever we receive.</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Pau Garcia \
i Quiles<br><a href="http://www.elpauer.org" \
target="_blank">http://www.elpauer.org</a><br>
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)
</div></div>
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