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On Thursday 15 August 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> Heya,
> 
> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
> not with talks and sessions... Or were they and I just didn't notice
> them?
> 
> They DID know that the single largest bunch of qualified Qt/QML
> developers was having a meeting in Spain, did they?

So, from the replies I summarize:
- There were developers and talks, just a bit under the radar. A honest 
miscalculation of what Akademy is for*
- Our marketing efforts of "KDE is people" has backfired, Canonical now thinks 
KDE = Aaron and Aaron = KDE ;-)

So, how do we fix this? Again, from the perspective of "all Linux-on-smartphone 
efforts should be as successful as possible" and (an admittedly personal 
belief) "collaboration works better", we should try to work with them.

What would work best? I'm guessing Albert and Michael have been doing their 
best to explain that we'd love to collaborate so I think we should ask them - 
how can we help you guys?

Speaking for myself (as just a promo dude) I will do what I can: if there's 
anything KDE related to an Ubuntu Phone announcement, I will be more than 
happy to help promote it over KDE channels; and I'd be happy to (help) write 
something about KDE tech on the Ubuntu Phone to give some attention to the 
fund raising efforts from Canonical. Also, I could suggest a "Ubuntu Phone 
developers guide for KDE developers" but that'd require help from a technical 
person.

Obviously I'd be willing to help the collaboration in other areas as well, 
wherever and however I can.

I think Aaron already made clear that he would be happy to work on sharing as 
much as possible with the Plasma efforts he's involved in and kick folk around 
him to do the same. I just make the wild bet that the Frameworks folk are 
perfectly open to the same - standards benefit us all, so does sharing 
libraries. They are turning KDE Libraries into components which are separately 
useful, that sounds like a terribly useful think for Ubuntu Phone.

Cheers,
Jos


* that would be to let everybody in the KDE ecosystem meet and collaborate - 
and anybody who could use KDE tech or would want to somehow work with KDE folk 
can and should be as vocal as possible about that at Akademy! Community is 
about building mutually beneficial relationships. If it is all about giving or 
taking, it doesn't work for one of the parties and makes no sense. We're all 
adult enough to understand companies have their needs and goals and we can 
deal with that. We do with Jolla and Blackberry and Digia and KDAB and ICS, 
why not Canonical?

> Cheers,
> Jos

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