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List:       kde-commits
Subject:    Re: kdenetwork/kdict
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2004-07-13 21:11:12
Message-ID: 200407132111.12694.frans.englich () telia ! com
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On Tuesday 13 July 2004 20:57, Andy Fawcett wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:54, Rob Kaper wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 07:01:01PM +0000, Frans Englich wrote:
> > > If your question is strictly interpreted: yes. All small programs
> > > which either do not work in a foreign environment, or is "trivial"
> > > and have an equivalent, is not shown. For example, we do not hide
> > > Kopete/Gaim. I have no plans of changing more programs(so it is
> > > what you see).
> >
> > Some applications are more equal than others after all! Finally, we
> > have a way to find out which KDE contributions are less important
> > than others!
> >
> > I think I coined a solution (not sure, at least thought about it ;-)
> > ) where a .desktop file could specify a primary environment and use
> > the grouping like we have for console stuff (konsole -e vmstat) or
> > pure X applications.
> >
> > That way, all applications integrate in the same menu, but the
> > grouping avoid clutter. A desktop would show it's primary
> > applications first, and add menu entries for "OtherDE Applications".
>
> This seems to be the most sensible solution to the problem, maybe it's
> something that we could implement (and push to the XDG).
>
> I don't see any reason to hide applications from any desktop.

And that's plain wrong. Read the threads here on kde-cvs, and the one on the 
XDG-list, please.

> On both my 
> SuSE system at work, and the FreeBSD ones at home, I have a mixture of
> applications in the menus, and that suits me fine. I don't want to go
> round manually adding applications to menus

No one's denying that. But what this change do is favor the majority of 
userbase, instead of you and me.
We, the power users, can see the distinction and cares, but the 99% of users 
couldn't care less, and hence this change is done. This is a matter of 
default "values." What you suggest is to have a setup which honors our belly 
buttons, in favor of the others(the 99% of users).


			Frans



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