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Subject:    Re: Review Request 129724: [frameworks] Enable -Wsuggest-override for g++ >= 5.0.0
From:       Michael Pyne <mpyne () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-12-30 16:43:25
Message-ID: 20161230164325.27201.2977 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On Dec. 30, 2016, 6:39 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Is that enabled by default now? I hope not! This is a completely useless warning \
> > for all frameworks (as we are not allowed to use override) and even more for a \
> > legacy code bases. I don't want to have to adjust the cmake in all projects I \
> > maintain to silence this warning again. And even less I want to spent days adding \
> > overrides to legacy code base.
> 
> Laurent Montel wrote:
> We can use Q_DECL_OVERRIDE which is replaced by override when your gcc support it. \
> So There is not a problem to use this flags no ? 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> I commented on that aspect in the past. We cannot have both: enforce C++11 and at \
> the same time keep compatibility to no C++11. 
> 
> 
> We need to find a real line and not bullshit around with macros.
> 
> 
> 
> Either we say C++11 then enable all of it, or say no. But then no earnings please.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm seriously annoyed by the stupid dance we are doing.

The Clang warning flag is not documented very well but everything I've been able to \
find seems to indicate it became a default warning when it was added in LLVM 3.6.  \
However some simple testcases I've run against a more recent LLVM (3.9) fail to trip \
the warning even after enabling optimization, ensuring C++11 is enabled, using \
various combinations of override combinations, etc.  So it seems that at least in \
recent LLVM this may not be a source of much noise even though it's enabled by \
default.  But there are a lot of complaints online about this warning for LLVM 3.6 so \
it's going to be with us one way or another anyways.

I'm sympathetic to the point about either supporting C++11 or not instead of having \
to guess which of its subfeatures we can use, especially since our "supported \
compilers page" (https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Policies#Frameworks_compiler_requirements_and_C.2B.2B11) \
that tells us what we can use appears to be resistant to being located from a search \
engine.  But that's the kind of thing that would need discussion on the mailing list \
and it seems to me like we've repainted that shed several times over already.


- Michael


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On Dec. 29, 2016, 11:48 p.m., Albert Astals Cid wrote:
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> (Updated Dec. 29, 2016, 11:48 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for Build System and KDE Frameworks.
> 
> 
> Repository: extra-cmake-modules
> 
> 
> Description
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> Gives a nice warning about something that should be marked as override but isn't
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> kde-modules/KDEFrameworkCompilerSettings.cmake 038ddc3 
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129724/diff/
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> Thanks,
> 
> Albert Astals Cid
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On December 30th, 2016, 6:39 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin \
Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Is that enabled by default now? I hope not! This is a \
completely useless warning for all frameworks (as we are not allowed to use override) \
and even more for a legacy code bases. I don't want to have to adjust the cmake in \
all projects I maintain to silence this warning again. And even less I want to spent \
days adding overrides to legacy code base.</p></pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On December 30th, 2016, 7:28 a.m. UTC, <b>Laurent Montel</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">We \
can use Q_DECL_OVERRIDE which is replaced by override when your gcc support it. So \
There is not a problem to use this flags no ?</p></pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On December 30th, 2016, 8:01 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I \
commented on that aspect in the past. We cannot have both: enforce C++11 and at the \
same time keep compatibility to no C++11.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">We need to find a real \
line and not bullshit around with macros.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Either we say C++11 \
then enable all of it, or say no. But then no earnings please.</p> <p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I'm \
seriously annoyed by the stupid dance we are doing.</p></pre>  </blockquote>








</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">The Clang warning flag \
is not documented very well but everything I&#39;ve been able to find seems to \
indicate it became a default warning when it was added in LLVM 3.6.  However some \
simple testcases I&#39;ve run against a more recent LLVM (3.9) fail to trip the \
warning even after enabling optimization, ensuring C++11 is enabled, using various \
combinations of override combinations, etc.  So it seems that at least in recent LLVM \
this may not be a source of much noise even though it&#39;s enabled by default.  But \
there are a lot of complaints online about this warning for LLVM 3.6 so it&#39;s \
going to be with us one way or another anyways.

I&#39;m sympathetic to the point about either supporting C++11 or not instead of \
having to guess which of its subfeatures we can use, especially since our \
&quot;supported compilers page&quot; \
(https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Policies#Frameworks_compiler_requirements_and_C.2B.2B11) \
that tells us what we can use appears to be resistant to being located from a search \
engine.  But that&#39;s the kind of thing that would need discussion on the mailing \
list and it seems to me like we&#39;ve repainted that shed several times over \
already.</pre> <br />










<p>- Michael</p>


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<div>Review request for Build System and KDE Frameworks.</div>
<div>By Albert Astals Cid.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Dec. 29, 2016, 11:48 p.m.</i></p>









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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
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 <li>kde-modules/KDEFrameworkCompilerSettings.cmake <span style="color: \
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