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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 280858] Konqueror crashes
From:       matbhm <matthias.boehme () m-boehme ! de>
Date:       2011-08-29 2:24:21
Message-ID: E1QxrWP-0004QQ-7j () bugs ! kde ! org
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280858





--- Comment #8 from matbhm <matthias boehme m-boehme de>  2011-08-29 02:24:20 ---
Thanks a lot for your answer! But sorry, I have the same problems more often
under khtml! And it's not only www.zeit.de or www.tagesspiegel.de, it's also,
but not so often, www.focus.de, www.morgenpost.de, www.spiegel.de and many
other Websites. 

And a comment to khtml: Try, to open www.nytimes.com. If you scroll down the
website, you see a link to videos. Under khtml you see only the MainVideo. The
four windows under the MainVideo with alternate videos you don't see!?! With
webkit I can see the other Windows with alternate Videos (I'am sorry, but my
English is terrible).

I prefer konqueror as Browser, because it is the Browser from KDE. But, sorry,
I don't understand, why it is impossible, that this Browser give me the same
function without any Problems as other Browser like firefox, Opera, google
chrome and others. What the hell is the matter? The same libflash.so, which
crashes konqueror, doesn't crashes Firefox, Opera, Google-Chrome and so on!
Since more than ten years the konqueror is a big problem. It is the reason,
that the great Distributions doesn't use the konqueror! Why, damned, the
Konqueror-Team can't do the same like the teams from Firefox, Opera, Chrome and
so on? And is KHTML like a religion for the Develop-Team? When KHTML doesn't
bring me the function for a good functionable Browser, put it into the trash
and forget it!

Greetings from Berlin in Germany,

Matthias.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org [mailto:bugzilla_noreply@kde.org] Im Auftrag von
Gérard Talbot 
Gesendet: Montag, 29. August 2011 02:18
An: matthias.boehme@m-boehme.de
Betreff: [Bug 280858] Konqueror crashes

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280858





--- Comment #7 from Gérard Talbot <browserbugs gtalbot org>  2011-08-29
00:18:19 ---
Matthias,

KDE/KHTML developers do not maintain, update or fix webkit rendering engine;
webkit ( https://bugs.webkit.org/ ) does.

KDE developers do not maintain, update or fix Adobe Flash plugin (version 10.3
or 11 beta 2); Adobe corporation does.

KDE developers do not maintain, update or fix jQuery javascript library;
http://jquery.com/ does. It is not even clear that jQuery is ECMAScript 3, 5.0
or 5.1 compliant to begin with.

So, there is high chances/probabilities that this bug is not fixable by
KDE/KHTML developers. It is still possible that the crash bug you experiment
may be dependent or caused by Konqueror but it is not likely in my opinion.
Chances are low.

All I can tell you with a 100% certainty is that I can view the videos at
www.zeit.de while using Konqueror 4.7.0 on the KDE 4.7.0 platform, Qt 4.7.2,
and Adobe Flash player 10.3.183.7 . 

ZietOnline uses external content providers ( brightcove.com/services ) for
their videos: that too could be another issue although not likely. 

ZietOnline does not create flawless markup code either: they over-code
unneedlessly, over-declare, over-qualify, over-style too, over-link (for
advertisements). They try to cater for iPad and other media via CSS3 media
queries. They over-excessively rely on document.write() without, it seems,
opening and closing document stream written dynamically 
http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-HTML/html.html#ID-98948567 

Once Adobe releases a final (stable) version 11 for 64-bits Linux of its Flash
plugin, then try it and revisit this bug to update the status of the bug.

regards, Gérard

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