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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 169250] Amarok2 menu hiding with Ctrl+M
From:       Paristo () Gmail ! com
Date:       2008-08-17 10:12:55
Message-ID: 20080817101255.12866.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From Paristo Gmail com  2008-08-17 12:12 -------
There is no need for hint when it is only a shortcut what is not enabled by deufalt \
(so novice user, who does not know about it, cant hide menu!) and it is not on \
menu-what would allow accidental menu hiding.

The problem is that is not KDE wide action, because it should be working in way; User \
hides menu first time with menu or shortcut > information box comes up what needs \
user to press "OK" and mark it does not come anymore, to confirm to knowing what he \
has just done. After that, it would not get showed on any application, unless user \
did not mark it. 

Some developers has got same attitude than Gnome developers, if it is possible there \
is 5% of users who gets it confused, it needs to be removed. It does not matter if \
50% or 95% wants that feature to be added. They solve the problem with easiest \
possible way, just removing it, without actually thinking the problem and solving it \
with harder way, making it work and having it in use.

The easiest way to get it work, is keep it disabled by _default_ not by removing it, \
what has now done. Lucky to us, Konqueror, Dolphin and many other application \
supports it and makes those applications even better because then those are more \
simple and cleaner to use when user can configure the application to adapt them, not \
user to adapt the application. 

The Dolphin and Konqueror has feature that when user hides menu, user gets it easily \
back when right clicks the file view/webpage and first one is "Show menubar Ctrl+M". \
Konsole has same thing but it is not first one, because konsole is used more by \
"advanced" users than novice users, so it cant be always the first option and in a \
way of them.

Just do a mockup of the menu hided on Amarok2 and compare it to non-hided menu \
version, it's nicer and cleaner for user, if only a few % of Amarok2 time of use, is \
using menu, why it should be there?

Just disable the shortcut and do not add the menu function for it and it's like now, \
but those who want to use KDE, not Gnome, can hide it.


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