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Subject:    [Bug 145380] Request: Support for <video> and <audio> elements of
From:       Ivo Emanuel "Gonçalves" <justivo () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-09-25 15:06:30
Message-ID: 20070925150630.6102.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From justivo gmail com  2007-09-25 17:06 -------
Mr Sandfeld,

> This stuff is still under discussion, and is already a
> failure. Implementing it right now is not wise.

It's under discussion for improvements and to reach consensus.  Nothing bad in that, \
and it's not unwise to start supporting whatever from the spec is already stated to \
be stable.  The <video> and <audio> proposals fall under that category and will not \
be seeing radical changes in the future.

> Opera will only support MPEG

Where have you heard this?  You should source such bold claim.  I'm in contact with \
Opera developers like Mr van Kesteren, who have confirmed that they do intend to \
support Theora and Vorbis as Opera does not wish to pay licenses for every \
video/audio format out there.

> Firefox will only support Theora

Yes, and you know what, Firefox is free software.  Do you know that free software \
relies on free formats?  Are you perhaps stating that KDE does not wish to support \
free formats?  Are you as an individual not willing to support free software and free \
formats?  Do you know that free software needs to stay united, or the movement will \
be crushed under the big monopolies out there like Apple?

> and Apple absolutely refuses to support anything but DRM Quicktime in Safari.

Yes, and the KHTML team should fight against that by providing an alternative browser \
with support for free formats.  The question is: why is it not doing that?

> So right there, before even being implemented the <video> and <audio> tags are \
> already incompatible between browsers.

HTML also started as incompatible across browsers.  Does that make HTML a bad thing?  \
Or is it the browser developers themselves who do not wish to use a common framework? \
Guess what the <video> and <audio> proposals in HTML 5 are?  A common framework!

> Btw. It might be an idea to implement <bgsound> which is more widely used than \
> <audio>.

I hope that was intended to be sarcastic, Mr Sandfeld, because otherwise it just \
makes you look silly.  Following that line of thought, Konqueror should also support \
ActiveX.  I mean, it's more widely used than most HTML 5 elements that do the same \
thing, so ActiveX must be a good thing, right?


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