From kde-bugs-dist Mon May 22 21:59:55 2006 From: Michael Reiher Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:59:55 +0000 To: kde-bugs-dist Subject: [Bug 65019] Improper message notification behavior Message-Id: <20060522215955.13448.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-bugs-dist&m=114833521623899 ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65019 michael.reiher gmx de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |michael.reiher gmx de ------- Additional Comments From michael.reiher gmx de 2006-05-22 23:59 ------- I was just about to file a wishlist entry, for flashing the tray icon on any message, even when there is already an open chat window. Well, then I found this lengthy discussion and found that it's already possible. So I turn this into a usability report. IMHO the wording of the options is a bit unfortunatly choosen. Without reading this discussion I would _never_ have gotten the clue that they might have something to do with my problem (and thus I simply ignored them up to that point). In fact even then it took me some time and reading the associated "what's this" help texts a few times before I understood what they mean. They kind of confuse more than they help. They talk about a strange concept of message queues, incoming messages, new messages, unread messages, queued messages... As a user who is not deeply involved with kopete, this just gives me a big "Huh?! What??" ;) It seems to me that the options are actually not about message queues, at least from the users POV. I mean who cares about a message queue? Shouldn't they always be queued anyway? I mean who wants to loose messages? So let's look at the options. Option "Use message queue": Actually the mouse over help and "what's this" help say different things. So what's actually the point of this option? Is it to _not_ immediately open a message window on incoming messages? Then it should be named like that, e.g. "Automatically open chat window on first message". Or is it about flashing tray icons and bubbles? But they are configured on the "Events" page already. Even more awkward is the 2nd otpion "Queue unread messages". The user has to understand the concept of the message queue first. And then why queue at all? I mean they end up in the open message window anyway? So the whole point of this option seems to be: Flash tray icon on _any_ message i.e. also when there is an open chat window. Then it should be named like that. And probably moved to the Events page. Now that I basically got what I wanted: I would like to disable the bubble for subsequent messages i.e. when the chat window is already open. It's nice and helpful for the first message, as you instantly know who wants something from you, and whether you want to answer immediately or later. But it's pretty intrusive further on, like those passive popups. So IMHO it should default to that: Flashed tray icon and bubble on first message, flashed tray icon only on subsequent messages (i.e. when chat window open)