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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 105437] Add kiosklike party mode
From:       Michael Reiher <michael.reiher () gmx ! de>
Date:       2005-05-17 13:06:48
Message-ID: 20050517130648.24086.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From michael.reiher gmx de  2005-05-17 15:06 -------
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 05:34, Mike Diehl wrote:
> >IMHO this "Delete" should even removed in normal operation, it's pretty
> > easy to hit the wrong one!!
>
> Sorry, we ask for confirmation  before delete, you still do it after the
> warning then you are what is dangerous. :)


Well, it's easy to fix, but that confirmation is pretty scarce;) It consists 
of "Warning", "<filename>", "Delete" and "Cancel"...

The question is whether the user makes the connection that "Delete" means that 
the song is gone forever, when he/she actually only wants to remove the song 
from the playlist. There could be the interpretation that even "Delete file" 
means "delete this files entry from the playlist". Even I, as someone who 
knows amarok, find myself often heading for the delete entry at first, as it 
looks kind of obvious. So even in normal operation, this is dangerous.
In the party case, which my original report is about, it's even more likely 
that people just don't read and someone accidently deletes a file.

IMHO the problem lies in the temporary nature of the playlist as just a 
temporary selection of songs from your collection. To the user these are just 
references of the songs not the actual songs. The actual songs are perceived 
to reside in the collection, or on the harddisk in the filebrowser or the 
file dialog respectively, depending on how you added it to the playlist. And 
thus it's obvious, and completely unambiguous, to go to that place in order 
to delete the file. The playlist is simply not the place to manage files.

Greets Michael


------- Additional Comments From michael.reiher gmx de  2005-05-17 15:06 -------
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 05:34, Mike Diehl wrote:
> >IMHO this "Delete" should even removed in normal operation, it's pretty
> > easy to hit the wrong one!!
>
> Sorry, we ask for confirmation  before delete, you still do it after the
> warning then you are what is dangerous. :)


Well, it's easy to fix, but that confirmation is pretty scarce;) It consists 
of "Warning", "<filename>", "Delete" and "Cancel"...

The question is whether the user makes the connection that "Delete" means that 
the song is gone forever, when he/she actually only wants to remove the song 
from the playlist. There could be the interpretation that even "Delete file" 
means "delete this files entry from the playlist". Even I, as someone who 
knows amarok, find myself often heading for the delete entry at first, as it 
looks kind of obvious. So even in normal operation, this is dangerous.
In the party case, which my original report is about, it's even more likely 
that people just don't read and someone accidently deletes a file.

IMHO the problem lies in the temporary nature of the playlist as just a 
temporary selection of songs from your collection. To the user these are just 
references of the songs not the actual songs. The actual songs are perceived 
to reside in the collection, or on the harddisk in the filebrowser or the 
file dialog respectively, depending on how you added it to the playlist. And 
thus it's obvious, and completely unambiguous, to go to that place in order 
to delete the file. The playlist is simply not the place to manage files.

Greets Michael
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