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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 81637] Revolutionary priority number propertyfor toolbars and
From:       Eduardo Robles Elvira <edulix () iespana ! es>
Date:       2005-02-14 12:58:08
Message-ID: 20050214125808.29706.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From edulix iespana es  2005-02-14 13:58 -------
 Christoph Wiesen:

I understand and partially share your point of view - Better thought \
options,menus,toolbars.. is a good solution to the clutter problem. And hiding things \
can turn confusing and/or frustrating to  users. That could be a very good reason to \
disable this feature by default.

You can already rearrange your toolbar items at will. Right, it's not being a \
machine's initiative, and we're talking only about the toolbar items, but it can also \
be a support nightmare. So why is it there that feature? Because it can be handy. So \
can be the feature I propose. And if only users who know what they're doing would \
activate the feature, and will know how to disable it.

You just need to assure that it's implemented in a usable and well thought way. It \
should be easy to disable it (when activated). And you could always press the show \
all options item!.

Talking about usability, I think that a persistent search bar (i.e. a kicker plugin \
or an entry box in the right side of the app menu) should be good way to locate, for \
example, some random option,button,feature,toolbar,menu.. in the app you're in. It \
could search in the help manual, tips, etc for example.

More over, I still see the proposition as a really good way to get usage information \
from users (if they want to) to developers, which can ease the improvement of kde \
usability. I belive that it can be unvaluable information! In the end, the \
interpretation criteria and usage of that info is of course up to app developers.

Many users tend to use a small percentage of what they're offered. And part of that \
percentage (and of the unused items) is a shared amongst most users. BTW, this \
information could perhaps also be used in a more advanced and general way, for \
example attaching an AI kit that would be connected to the information pipe and act \
consecuently and in a much richer way. Perhaps for KDE 5.0 ? ;-).


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