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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 49784] strange question marks left to subject
From:       Ingo "Klöcker" <kloecker () kde ! org>
Date:       2002-10-28 21:59:08
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------- Additional Comments From kloecker@kde.org  2002-10-28 22:59 -------
Subject: Re:  strange question marks left to subject

On Monday 28 October 2002 22:07, Stefan Bittner wrote:
> Sorry if I seem overly picky, buy
> concerning the state change I don't agree:
>
> IMHO in that line you should display the state of the message and
> not the state of Your knowledge of the message.
> The message has any of the encrypted / signed / not encrypted / not
> signed state and that state definitely doesn't change because one
> selects ist. It's just that You now more about the mail once it's
> selected.

Let me reiterate:
When nothing is shown then this indicates that the message it neither 
signed nor encrypted.
When the signature/lock icons are shown then this indicates that the 
message is partially/fully signed/encrypted with/without problems.
Last but not least, when questions marks are shown this indicates that 
it's currently unknown whether the message is signed and/or encrypted.

We can't simply show nothing when the state of a message is unknown 
(because it hasn't been checked yet) because then the user would 
correctly assume that the message is _not_ signed and _not_ encrypted 
which is not necessarily the case.

> But as a user I'm less interested in how much knowledge KMail gathers
> about the mail depending on if it is selected or not.
>
> I'm interested in the state of the message itself.

Exactly. But as long as KMail hasn't checked the state of a message it 
obviously can't tell you the state. And therefore it displays question 
marks to indicate that the state is still unknown. BTW, the state of a 
message is saved in the index once it has been checked. So it will be 
only checked the first time the user selects the message and not each 
time.

> The message changes only state when i decrypt or verify it.
> So there should be state changes like encrypted->decrypted,
> signed->verifed if You really want them.

Huh? No message ever changes it's state. Messages are only decrypted to 
view them. They are not written to disk in decrypted form. This means 
their state will never change from encrypted to decrypted. The same is 
true for signed messages. The signature will never be removed so they 
will always stay signed.

If you don't want those icons then please turn them off.

EOT

Ingo
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