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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 46540] Drafts should be saved until sent
From:       Anguo <linux-tw () masquilier ! org>
Date:       2002-09-26 17:41:28
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------- Additional Comments From linux-tw@masquilier.org  2002-09-26 19:41 -------
  (note for jb-sunlight-de : this is the duplicate bug to your reported bug         
#44118)         
         
Please check the proposed "ugly hack" in bug 32305 .       
     
I upgraded the severity to "high" because there is a risk of loss of data. See  
my comments on this point below. The reporter of Bug 48038 also says: "I was  
under the impression that the e-mail is saved on the harddrive. This bug cost  
me about 4 hours of work."  
  
      
------- Additional Comment bug32305#1 From Ingo Klöcker 2001-09-11 19:29       
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2. The purpose of saving a message in the drafts folder is to be able          
to continue editting it at a later time. I don't think it makes sense          
to save the message if you intend to continue composing it.          
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Let the user decide what makes sense to them. Granted, Kmail runs under Linux        
and not under Windrow$e, and we don't have the worry that the computer will        
crash on us when we are in the middle of composing an email. It takes a        
while for users who have recently switched over from windblow$ to get rid of        
the habit of saving whatever they are doing every five minutes ;-).        
        
Nonetheless, it may make sense for some users to save an email as they are        
composing it and their reasons may be perfectly valid.        
   
Case in point: I live in the free, democratic Republic of China / Taiwan. It        
is a country prone to taiphoons and earthquakes. It is a tropical country with        
summer temperatures approaching 40 degrees celcius: with everybody having        
their air conditionning full on, the electricity supply grid is streched to        
its limits. Any of the above factors can lead to abrupt power shortages... and         
the average user does NOT have an expensive UPS unit(uninterupted power        
supply).        
I too, I keep the habit of saving every now and then everything I do: not that        
I do not trust Linux or Kmail, but because I do not trust whatever lays        
beyound the socket in my wall.  
        
One of the things I like about Linux is that it is free and some versions of        
it can be run on free/cheap ageing computers... which is a great bonus in some        
developping countries where people would never be able to afford the WinXP        
license, let alone the expensive hardware XP requires... Those countries        
incidentaly do not have a power grid as reliable as that of western European   
or north American countries...        
For them too, it would make sense to save in the middle of drafting an email.        
       
       
I have marked bug  32305 as a duplicate to this one though there is a subtle       
difference. The initial reporter wants to be able to carry on drafting the       
email after having saved it. This wrongly assumes that there is anything saved       
in the draft folder when the composer window is open.        
       
------- Additional Comment bug 32305 #5 From Anguo 2002-09-26 19:13 -------        
"When composing a shortcut like Ctrl+S to save in drafts will be blissfull.        
Also after saving in drafts is successful the composing can continue        
(currently the compose window is closed)"        
       
Actually, this point is not relevant because of bug 46540: when the composer        
window is open, the message doesn't exist in the draft folder. The only way to        
actually save the draft mail is when the composer window is closed.        
Once 46540 is solved, then we would be very close to having a solution to this        
bug.        
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------- Additional Comment bug32305#1 From Ingo Klöcker 2001-09-11 19:29       
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1. You can assign your own shortcuts (in the composer and in the main          
window) via Settings->Assign keys (or whatever it's labeled in the          
english version). So simply assign Ctrl+S to "Save in drafts".          
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OK, thanks... It also would be nice (for some users) to have a button/icon         
that could perform the same action. The button could be then added to the        
toolbar menu.         
         
      
Anguo.
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