On Tuesday 26 Feb 2002 1:17 pm, John Firebaugh wrote: > I need more information in order to help you. I take it kicker does not > crash, or you would get the crash dialog.=20 Correct - it autohides and then does not come back - even when the heavy = load=20 subsides >Does kicker appear in the process > list when this happens? Don't know - I will need to set up the test again - at the time I didn't=20 really think too hard - I had experienced the problem at least twice so I= =20 reported it but I was in the middle of compiling kde again, and I had cro= n=20 jobs doing important backups in the background and I couldn't get at the = menu=20 or anything. I presume, but don't know as I didn't try it before that I can either get= in=20 via a RMB, alt-f2 and the run command or via ctrl-alt-f1 QUESTION - how do I know what kicker is - all that top gives me is a load= of=20 kdeinit processes >What if you turn off autohiding in the control > center when it happens? Not sure I understand what you mean - do you mean that with a "hidden" ki= cker=20 as a result of the above bug to turn of autohiding? Also, see above, not sure how to run the control centre without a menu. --=20 Alan Chandler alan@chandlerfamily.org.uk