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Subject: Re: [kde-artists] User Icons
From: Eugene Trounev <eugene.trounev () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-11-11 14:54:07
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Well there are two simple solution for that:
1) Live with it
2) Implement better scaling algorithm
And anyhow, all our icons as of right now are non scalable. The are
pre-scaled PNGs. So demand scalability from user icons is a little too tall
of an order.
Best Regards,
Eugene Trounev
[it-s]
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa <
hugo@oxygen-icons.org> wrote:
> On 11/11/2011 03:20 PM, Hermann Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi Hugo,
> > They don't need to be scalable. The other OSses have them in something
> > like 256x256. In the Win7 Loginscreen there is a little more space, so they
> > are shown a little bigger. They will never be shown in bigger sizes than
> > that.
> >
> Well, I was more thinking of other places than the login screen (e.g. in
> the startup menu, for instance) where the same icon could be used, either
> enlarged, or shrunk. In both cases, this has poor result if not in scalable
> format. (or you'd need to generate all sizes manually)
>
> But I'm really no expert.
>
>
>
> Hermann
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >
> > > Datum: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:46:06 +0100
> > > Von: Hugo Pereira Da Costa<hugo@oxygen-icons.org>
> > > An: kde-artists@kde.org
> > > Betreff: Re: [kde-artists] User Icons
> > > Personnaly I'd vote for yes, new user icons would be good (the kde ones,
> > > from the screenshot below, are indeed the one I find the most ugly).
> > >
> > > The "picture" way looks good to me, unless someone has a better idea
> > > concerning a set that would fit "oxygen" better, which the current does
> > > not.
> > >
> > > Does these icons *really* need to be scalable ? Are they actually scaled
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Hugo
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > > every coupe of years I ask in this list if it is time to produce a nice
> > > >
> > > set of User Icons. I produced a Set years ago which wasn't perfect, but
> > > still better that whats there today and at least it made a start . To
> > > understand better what I mean, I took a screen shot from all major
> > > Desktop OS and
> > > put it in my Wuala drive.
> > >
> > > > https://www.wuala.com/hermann.**thomas/Fotos/kde/?key=**fM4NS4n2TeqL<https://www.wuala.com/hermann.thomas/Fotos/kde/?key=fM4NS4n2TeqL>
> > > >
> > > > Please look at the KDE, Gnome, Win, and MAC Icons. KDE is definitely the
> > > >
> > > worst. The Pics from Gnome are also better, but seem a little stolen for
> > > me. I think I recognise the Space shuttle and Chess Figures from WinXP.
> > >
> > > > Anyway I know a very good Photographer who is willing to share some Pics
> > > >
> > > with the appropriate Licence. With the once I have I could produce a nice
> > > set.
> > >
> > > > The thing is I only bother if there is a way to get rid of ALL old
> > > >
> > > icons. Yes Even the conductor icon for Root, and replace them with a
> > > complete
> > > new Set.
> > >
> > > > Some Argument from the past where that there should be Vector Icons. But
> > > >
> > > then why aren't all Wallpaper Vector Papers? Then someone said the old
> > > are
> > > nice and he likes them. Yes that might be true, but some people still
> > > like
> > > KDE2 and KDE has moved on.
> > >
> > > > So please share some your thoughts and give feedback if it's worth the
> > > >
> > > effort, or If I should wait another few years again to write to this
> > > list.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Hermann
> > > >
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Well there are two simple solution for that:<div>1) Live with it</div><div>2) \
Implement better scaling algorithm</div><div><br></div><div>And anyhow, all our \
icons as of right now are non scalable. The are pre-scaled PNGs. So demand \
scalability from user icons is a little too tall of an order.</div>
<div><br clear="all"><p \
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Best \
Regards,</p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">
<br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px"></p><p \
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Eugene \
Trounev</p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">
[it-s]</p><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Hugo Pereira Da \
Costa <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:hugo@oxygen-icons.org">hugo@oxygen-icons.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 11/11/2011 03:20 PM, Hermann Thomas wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Hugo,<br>
They don't need to be scalable. The other OSses have them in something like \
256x256. In the Win7 Loginscreen there is a little more space, so they are shown a \
little bigger. They will never be shown in bigger sizes than that.<br>
</blockquote></div>
Well, I was more thinking of other places than the login screen (e.g. in the startup \
menu, for instance) where the same icon could be used, either enlarged, or shrunk. In \
both cases, this has poor result if not in scalable format. (or you'd need to \
generate all sizes manually)<br>
<br>
But I'm really no expert.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hermann<br>
<br>
-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
Datum: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:46:06 +0100<br>
Von: Hugo Pereira Da Costa<<a href="mailto:hugo@oxygen-icons.org" \
target="_blank">hugo@oxygen-icons.org</a>><br>
An: <a href="mailto:kde-artists@kde.org" target="_blank">kde-artists@kde.org</a><br>
Betreff: Re: [kde-artists] User Icons<br>
Personnaly I'd vote for yes, new user icons would be good (the kde ones,<br>
from the screenshot below, are indeed the one I find the most ugly).<br>
<br>
The "picture" way looks good to me, unless someone has a better idea<br>
concerning a set that would fit "oxygen" better, which the current does<br>
not.<br>
<br>
Does these icons *really* need to be scalable ? Are they actually scaled ?<br>
<br>
Hugo<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi All,<br>
every coupe of years I ask in this list if it is time to produce a nice<br>
</blockquote>
set of User Icons. I produced a Set years ago which wasn't perfect, but<br>
still better that whats there today and at least it made a start . To<br>
understand better what I mean, I took a screen shot from all major Desktop OS and<br>
put it in my Wuala drive.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <a \
href="https://www.wuala.com/hermann.thomas/Fotos/kde/?key=fM4NS4n2TeqL" \
target="_blank">https://www.wuala.com/hermann.<u></u>thomas/Fotos/kde/?key=<u></u>fM4NS4n2TeqL</a><br>
<br>
Please look at the KDE, Gnome, Win, and MAC Icons. KDE is definitely the<br>
</blockquote>
worst. The Pics from Gnome are also better, but seem a little stolen for<br>
me. I think I recognise the Space shuttle and Chess Figures from WinXP.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Anyway I know a very good Photographer who is willing to \
share some Pics<br> </blockquote>
with the appropriate Licence. With the once I have I could produce a nice<br>
set.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> The thing is I only bother if there is a way to get rid of \
ALL old<br> </blockquote>
icons. Yes Even the conductor icon for Root, and replace them with a complete<br>
new Set.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Some Argument from the past where that there should be \
Vector Icons. But<br> </blockquote>
then why aren't all Wallpaper Vector Papers? Then someone said the old are<br>
nice and he likes them. Yes that might be true, but some people still like<br>
KDE2 and KDE has moved on.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> So please share some your thoughts and give feedback if \
it's worth the<br> </blockquote>
effort, or If I should wait another few years again to write to this list.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
thanks,<br>
Hermann<br>
</blockquote>
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