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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] New Oxygen icon "page-zoom"
From:       Jakob Petsovits <jpetso () gmx ! at>
Date:       2008-05-23 9:17:05
Message-ID: 200805231117.06521.jpetso () gmx ! at
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On Friday, 23. May 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> Jakob Petsovits wrote:
> > Other desktops and applications have fallback icons as well if they use
> > this icon name.
>
> This icon name isn't in the standard and it does not conform to the
> standard.  So that probability is very low.

Right, but note that "zoom" is not in the spec as well.
Just because it's technically possible to use it as icon name doesn't mean
we should do so, and stuff that isn't specified (including the zoom tool icon) 
should either a) get into the spec, or if they're not important enough,
b) agreed upon with app developers outside the spec.

> > If for example Gimp wants to use page-zoom, they'd probably put
> > their version into hicolor (as it's not included in the spec) which is
> > used as fallback in case any 3rd party theme doesn't provide the icon.
>
> Right and we need an icon named "zoom" in case a third party doesn't
> provide an icon named "zoom-fit-height".  This isn't going to fall back
> to "page-zoom"!

And it shouldn't fall back to the zoom tool icon, either. No icon can possibly 
provide "zoom to fit", "zoom to height", "zoom to window", "zoom in",
"zoom out" and "zoom to original size" at the same time. Those are *different* 
icons, and the zoom tool is another different one, not a more generic version 
of the mentioned ones. There can't be a sensible fallback icon at "zoom", 
because different purposes cannot possibly be covered by one single icon.

QED

P.S.:
The spec doesn't require us to provide *any* icon that is not directly listed 
in the spec. So the spec doesn't require us to provide "zoom".

--
Jakob
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