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Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Missing Oxygen icons (for Okular)
From:       James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj () acm ! org>
Date:       2008-05-12 23:41:07
Message-ID: 4828D593.9090004 () acm ! org
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Jakob Petsovits wrote:
> On Monday, 12. May 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
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> So I currently have two major problems (challenges?) with these icons:

Use "issues" it is more neutral.

> a) Need to find an accurate suffix that indicates that it is used for 
> navigation in an ordered list, as opposed to history navigation
> that go-next and go-previous are targeting.

Actually, that is not the proposed use.  They _should_ be the icons for 
the the Standard Actions:
	
	DocumentBack
	DocumentForward
	
So, yes we need a suitable word for the third level branching.  I don't 
see "view" as being the best choice, but it does appear to be an 
acceptable one.

> b) There are already two sets of arrow icons in KDE: arrow-* and go-*.
> The former are of course a misnomer, but I didn't manage to sort that out in 
> time for the 4.0 release. Those have traditionally been used for 
> next/previous on the one hand, and "move" on the other hand.
> Different things really, deserving different icons.

What are the "arrow-*" icons used for?  I thought that they were 
deprecated and going to be replaced with specifically named icons such 
as the "media-*" icons.

> With go-next-[whatever] for "order navigation", KDE would have three different 
> sets of arrow icons. Is that feasible or even a reasonable thing to do?

I think that you will find that this is the case with version 2 of KDE 
and is certainly the case with KDE 3.

> Should we expect 3rd party themers to come up with a three different ideas
> of arrows, for three different purposes? Artists, what do you think?

I think that we should expect that some 3rd party themes will not 
contain them.  This limits the possible names to names that will 
fallback to "go-next" & "go-previous"" icons.  Which is why I suggested:

  	go-next-view
  	go-previous-view

I also note that in KDE3 they ("previous" & "next") were also used for 
the Standard Actions "FindPrev" & "FindNext" for which KDE4 is using: 
"go-up-search" "go-down-search".

-- 
JRT
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