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Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] default artwork for 3.5
From:       theobroma <theobroma () kde-artists ! org>
Date:       2005-08-31 12:24:59
Message-ID: 200508310524.59477.theobroma () kde-artists ! org
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On Wednesday 31 August 2005 03:50 am, Danny Allen wrote:
> I'm not implying that you have left anything out of the logs.
>
> My main concern with the wallpaper choice is that the colours do not match
> the wave graphics. An argument can be made that the colours are the same as
> the default 3.4 wallpaper, but I thought we were striving for consistency
> here?
Yet another contradiction.
> I determined that we made an agreement not to radically change the colours
> or design (like I say, the wave has been kept to), and to go for
> consistency across our artwork offering. With the dark blues of the
> wallpaper proposal, I don't see consistency.
We were staying consistant with the 3.4 color as requested.
> "Stepping on toes" is an inevitable consequence of doing work within KDE,
> in my opinion.
I guess not everybody shares your opinion.
> Danny
>
> On Wednesday 31 August 2005 11:47, Janet Theobroma wrote:
> > Janet,
> >
> > > While it is true that a discussion took place regarding artwork for
> > > 3.5,
> >
> > It's all there Danny I left nothing out. A lot of what you are talking
> > about here were admittedly your opinions....
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:23:48] <lando> dannya: you keep on making comments
> > like you are the primary decision maker
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:23:54] <dannya> no, I don't
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:24:01] <dannya> yes, my opinion
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:36:28] <dannya> I also don't want bad feelings
> > about this: but, I need to make clear the urgency of our position, and
> > the likely failure of your original plan.
> > Were still on track so far.
> >
> > >several important, show-stopping objections (regarding the scale of the
> > > effort, timescale, and even whether the changes were even neccessary)
> >
> > were your opinions that you would aggressively interject as I was trying
> > to have a find a solution with <physos> and the time line.
> >
> > > were simply glossed over.
> >
> > The key purpose in the second irc meeting was to discuss the physos issue
> > with the way that the artwork always came in too late for a proper
> > features guide to be compiled on time. [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:34:09]
> > <physos> theobroma: Thing is, it would be perfect (perfect!) to have it
> > at the 1st or 2nd of Sept.
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:28:40] <theobroma> coolo: when is the latest we can
> > submit a new default wallpaper, splash, and about pages?
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:31:02] <coolo> theobroma: akademy
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:31:20] <coolo> and yes, I favor a new splash screen
> > for 3.5 :)
> >
> > This is my favorite section of the chat.
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:21:34] <dannya> hon: certain people will always
> > complain about any change
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:21:48] <dannya> once you have weathered the
> > complaints, you are free
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:21:49] <hon> yes I know :D
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:22:40] <dannya> theobroma: I don't agree with these
> > colours: http://img324.imageshack.us/my.php?image=about5zh.png anyway
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > It was also to discuss that artwork should be considered a feature and be
> > prone to the feature freeze. As for your input in terms of what was
> > decided
> >
> >
> > It was also to discuss that artwork should be considered a feature and be
> > prone to the feature freeze.
> > These are the facts I have left nothing out. I have nothing to hide this
> > has all been done out in the open.
> >
> >
> >  I fail to see your point here how can we disregard that which is
> > generally kept to? This makes no sense.
> >
> > > In the later IRC session, we had a lengthy debate, in which we thought
> > > we had come to an agreement as to the sane course of action. However,
> > > the new wallpapers which you have presented via. the polls, whilst
> > > technically good, still disregard what we agreed upon (that the wave
> > > should not change substantially - which was generally kept to -
> >
> > You need to visit this link once again http://kde-artists.org/files/wave/
> > As you can see the proposed default background matches the default
> > background in 3.4. So again I fail to see your point.
> >
> > > but more importantly that the
> > > colours should stay with the 3.4 palette - which seems to have gone out
> > > the window!)
> >
> > As for the the mention of the 3.4 color pallette there was this..
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:18:59] <kwwii> yes, in general, but I liked the
> > very first version which were very light blue
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:19:07] <dannya> kwwii: 3.4 beta?
> > [Sat Aug 20 2005] [13:19:14] <theobroma> it is using the same color
> > palette btw
> >
> > > So, that is why Ken, myself, and maybe others are annoyed at the
> > > current state.
> >
> > I still fail to see valid facts presented to support you claims. We met
> > all requirements you said so earlier in this reply.
> >
> > >When the agreed course of action, discussed at length is broken,
> > > there does not seem to be any other way to protest.
> >
> > Judge and jury are we?
> > You need to recheck your facts before making such declarations.
> > While you seem to like to act and make demands as if you are the default
> > artwork maintainer. I have never heard of anyone actually giving you the
> > task. As I remember you just started taking liberties and stepping on
> > toes. Again this is just based on facts.
> >
> > > Danny
> >
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